scarbunny Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Hey i dont care how my machine bench marks to be honest, if it plays well and looks reasonable im happy, till i can splash te cash on my new machine. And if you look at from the point of veiw of spend £300 on an xbox and £50 on a game, compaired to 14.99 broadband connection for as many games as i want?? I know which id rather. scar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 I'm intrigued now, how does the £14.99 a month broadband connection give you as many games as you want. Am I to assume you're talking of not paying for retail games? If so then personally I'd like to be on the right side of the law and also pay the developers for their hard earned efforts in developing the game in the first place. I think people who rip off software should have consideration for the people who put huge amounts of their life into the projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarbunny Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I think people who rip off software should have consideration for the people who put huge amounts of their life into the projects. They get payed what ever happens. And anyway I have payed for every game i own, i just like to have full trial with out the limits imposed by a demo, if a games crap id rather know before spending £30 on it. Im just saying that if i wanted i could have as many games as i wanted for free. scar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 And anyway I have payed for every game i own, i just like to have full trial with out the limits imposed by a demo, if a games crap id rather know before spending £30 on it. Im just saying that if i wanted i could have as many games as i wanted for free. Backtracktastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarbunny Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 arnt the peddles suppose to go that way??? and any way i do pay i just wait for them to hit bargin bin, if they were any good in first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 28, 2006 Author Share Posted March 28, 2006 So that makes it alright? Scheesh you have warped logic. Does that mean I can try out some of the things you own to see if I can be arsed to buy them? Shall we call this new venture RentaThief?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsta Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think people who rip off software should have consideration for the people who put huge amounts of their life into the projects. They get paid what ever happens. scar Now that, my friend, is utter UTTER tosh. You not thinking of the big picture. Take a game like Half-life. The actual creators of the game and the engine for it was a company called Valve. They are the poor soles that spent three years on the 1st game and nearly 5 on the 2nd. But think a second. They had the concept, created the game, the maps, the characters, the physics’, the lot. However, what they didn’t do was the storyline, the plot, the ending(s), the time lines or anything to do with the actually "playability" of the game. That fell to a team at Gearbox. So there is another team of individuals working on the project. It doesn’t stop there as Sierra where the publishers, producers and distributors for both games (currently doing Ice Age 2). And that’s ONE game, if you consider for a second how many people are involved, how much time they spend with every major release for PC/ XBOX/ 360/ PS2 etc, don’t you find that paying for the sodding thing might be worthwhile? Take any game, and although the original developers for it might get paid (many don’t BTW), there are many companies that get the sum total of F all if it doesn’t sell, regardless of how good it is, as low life’s download pirates of it. Even Microsoft (who you seem to have some sort of grudge with) might produce bit hits like Halo, but it’s Bungie that develop it in the 1st instance. On a separate note, your sig line slags off Microsoft, and yet you admit to downloading pirate software off the Internet. It wouldnt surprise me if your XP version is a pirate and therefore unpatched and open to weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but even if its not, where does your software come from? Torrents/ eMule/ Bearshare et al files cannot be trusted, and there could be any sort of payload hidden in the files you download (and no doubt distribute), I have seem a file as small as 50k (a keygen) total a machine before now. I got a 360 recently, and I think that 40 quid for a game like Advanced Warfighter is a bargain, I paid 50 for PGR3 and again it was worth it. I suppose that I might be a minority, but if I worked for 5 years on a project and someone ripped it off I would be highly upset, especially if at the end I didn’t get paid (most game devs are on a performance bonus for completion of a project, and that includes it going RTM), I would be gutted. I guess that why I pay for my games/ software/ music,... Just my thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarbunny Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 It wouldnt surprise me if your XP version is a pirate and therefore unpatched and open to weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but even if its not, where does your software come from? Your right i didnt pay for my copy of XP, but yet it has none of the vulnrabilties you talk about as Microsofts validation system is so easy to bypass. I dont see the reason to pay £200+ for an operating system that is full of backdoors and loopholes that leave my data at risk. That is why I use linux for the majority of my activites be they internet browsing listerning to my music what ever. Thwe only reason i have Windows at all is because of the strangle hold they have on the PC market there is no compertition if i want to play a game, whether i downloaded it or bought it with my own money(which i do alot) i have no choice but to use windows. Torrents/ eMule/ Bearshare et al files cannot be trusted That is why i dont use them that and they are far too slow. I also pay for my games only this week i bought bith The Elder Scrolls Oblivion and The Godfather, with my own money from a job i enjoy. I have one of the largest DVD, CD, Game collections of any one i have meet. When it comes to music i may download one or two tracks if its any good ill by the album, its the same way i veiw games. If its good ill buy it, if not then i wont and ill delete it, if its not good enough to buy why should i want it taking up space?? Im assuming that most people here have MP3 players. And i can also assume that most people have ripped there cds to listern to on them, which is against the law, as you are not allowed backup copies for your own use in Britain, you can in the US but not here. I have seen people on here asking how to downgrade PSP firmware, without people bitching at them. and there is only one reason i know of that you could possibly want to make you PSP out of date and thats to play illegal game ISO's. You may see me as low life, but i bet i have put more into the games industry than most have. Back on topic: it seem a waste to me to buy a 360 just yet as in a few months the price is going to drop, and some nice bundles will be appearing especially since the PS3 is being realesed towards christmas. Hopefully the game prices will also come down with that too but we will have to see. I still think £50 for a game is far too much seen as a lot of them are just plan average, my dad has PGR3 and i found it plain boring there was nothing new to it, same old same old. The only game that has impressed me so far is COD2 but i all ready completed that months ago. scar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Your right i didnt pay for my copy of XP, but yet it has none of the vulnrabilties you talk about as Microsofts validation system is so easy to bypass. I dont see the reason to pay £200+ for an operating system that is full of backdoors and loopholes that leave my data at risk. In one breath you are advertising yourself as wanting to setup a business in the IOM, and in the next breath you just take it all away.... Silly boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarbunny Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Yeah but the idea was a bad one i think everyone agreed. I think the IOM is far to small a community, and the internet is too big a reasource for the idea to have taken off, i know id rather shop on line than in a shop but hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsta Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 It wouldnt surprise me if your XP version is a pirate and therefore unpatched and open to weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but even if its not, where does your software come from? Your right i didnt pay for my copy of XP, but yet it has none of the vulnrabilties you talk about as Microsofts validation system is so easy to bypass. I dont see the reason to pay £200+ for an operating system that is full of backdoors and loopholes that leave my data at risk. Eh? So you Validated it and therefor used the Windows/ Microsoft update tool to patch the system, so it has no vulns, and yet in the same paragraph, you dont want to pay for it as its full of "backdoors and loopholes" <sic>. One simply just contradicts the other. Almost all Windows Vulns are patched as soon as the vuln is identified as a threat. NONE of this takes into account the rubbish that you may be downloading onto you system on whatever p2p system that you use (Usenet and IRC also fall into this catagory). I would also like to see written verification that ripping CD;s for your own use using a DRM capable app is illegal in the UK, and if so if it applies to the Isle of Man, as this is a MANX based forum. Also, how have you contibuted to the games industry exactly, and HOW have you done so more than members here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavsta Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 It wouldnt surprise me if your XP version is a pirate and therefore unpatched and open to weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but even if its not, where does your software come from? Your right i didnt pay for my copy of XP, but yet it has none of the vulnrabilties you talk about as Microsofts validation system is so easy to bypass. Your such a L33t Hax0r! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germann Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 That is why I use linux for the majority of my activites be they internet browsing listerning to my music what ever. Thwe only reason i have Windows at all is because of the strangle hold they have on the PC market there is no compertition if i want to play a game, whether i downloaded it or bought it with my own money(which i do alot) i have no choice but to use windows. If you use Linux as much as you say you do, I'm surprised you don't use this for your gaming needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarbunny Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 I would use cedega but its compatibilty is patchy, im trying qemu at the minute but its a nightmare to set up, i also tried Wine but again compatibilty issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 31, 2006 Author Share Posted March 31, 2006 I would use cedega but its compatibilty is patchy, im trying qemu at the minute but its a nightmare to set up, i also tried Wine but again compatibilty issues Have you tried a new concept of paying for something?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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