manxchatterbox Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 I've bben watching the tv news about the London High Court case involving a woman seeking to be provided with the anti-cancer drug Herceptin...and the arguments put forward by some UK health trusts that they won't prescribe it because of the costs.... are IOM women being offerd the drug? or is it being refused because the DHSS doesn't have enough money....are IOM Civil Servants / Politicians setting a value cap on life, as opposed to clinical judgement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Or because it's not been cleared for safety yet and there are worries it can cause heart attacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 As far as I am aware from people who should know there are no restrictions or caps on access to appropriate drugs at the moment provided they are being used under NICE guidelines. However this situation could change at some time in the future for financial reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 From EnergyFM news: Last Updated:07/02/2006 15:43:39 A breast cancer treatment, the supply of which is currently the focus of legal action in the UK is readily available to patients in the Isle of Man. Nobles Hospital Manager Paul Shields has confirmed that there are no restrictions on the provision of Herceptin if it has been prescribed by a cancer specialist. Across the water, a woman has taken her local health care trust to the High Court in a bid to receive the drug on the NHS.She has so far been forced to pay 5 thousand pounds for the treatment,hailed as a miracle drug by some users. Mr Shields told Energy FM that the Manx Health Service follows Scottish guidelines on the matter,rather than those in England and Wales. He added that although Herceptin is expensive,the alternative cost can be far higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 are IOM women being offerd the drug? I've a couple of friends here who have been offered it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 So thats another of Manxchatterboxes threads that have come to a halt because of facts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggle Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 As far as I am aware from people who should know there are no restrictions or caps on access to appropriate drugs at the moment provided they are being used under NICE guidelines. However this situation could change at some time in the future for financial reasons. It already has changed. I was recently refused a new treatment for a condition due to the costs. The new drug has little or no side effects but NICE guidlines stated it was to expensive. I'm left using a drug that makes you sick for two days every week after taking it andf also having to take a handfull of other stuff counter the side effects. I had to wait eight months to see the "consultant" only to be told no! Oh, I'm not a women and it wasn't Herceptin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 There should be a right to appeal against decisions which are questionable. This process of appeal should give a right to a patient or their representative to speak directly to an independent chairman and it should be user friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynz Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 From EnergyFM news: Last Updated:07/02/2006 15:43:39 Across the water, a woman has taken her local health care trust to the High Court in a bid to receive the drug on the NHS.She has so far been forced to pay 5 thousand pounds for the treatment,hailed as a miracle drug by some users. . So this woman is prepared to waste money and time on paying lawyers, (plus the money of her local health care trust) but not prepared to spend time raising money for her treatment, and saving in order that she can afford the drug????? She could always take the pharmacuitical companies to court for making her drug so expensive (of course then they would recoup that loss by putting up the prices of their drugs). Yes it is wrong when healthcare is dictated by economics, and I think a few less managers would alleviate the NHS's cashflow problems. However the NHS still have a budget to work within, and remember every extra penny spent in one area, is less spent in another. Where does the money come from? With healthcare, the priority should be (is mainly) on lifesaving treatments. All else should come below. Are you having a laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 Lifesaving treatments like Viagra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynz Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Maybe I have totally misread what you said but it sounds to me like you are saying this womans cancer is not a priority and you think she should be saving up the 40k herself to treat it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloephoria Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Its all a bit shit really when the government is going on about how its too expensive to pay £40,000 for each of the 12,000 women who die of breast cancer each year, but they will happly spend £200,000 per the x1000 really pointless statues and modern art staues that look shit anyway in every town and city. Thousands on the dole for people who are too fat and idle to get a job excluding disabled etc. The millions that is spent on war and nuclear research. But somehow cannot afford to save peoples life?! And the greedy companies that overcharge for the drugs. And no doubt that these people who control who gets the drug, if they got cancer it wouldnt be a no for them. Because it seems that money is more important than life i hate the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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