nipper Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Manx Radio Opinion programme was given today to a group who have started a political organsation. The Mannin Line programme was used for members of the public to have their say. There was quite a good reaction and it seems the wheels are starting to move for the General Election in November. Is this another Alternative Policy Group (APG) that became the Alliance for Progressive Government (APG too or APG 2?). I'm not sure where they are just now but ex MHK Edgar Quine (founder APG man) is giving a talk tomorrow night at the Empress Hotel for them. I am sure we will be hearing more from the Positive Action Group. They would like some help from someone to build a website for them so I'm sure there could be some help given from someone on the forum? Any thoughts for the new initiative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who's involved & what do they stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who's involved & what do they stand for? They are a team/group of people that feel there is a need for an accountable Tynwald. The present members of government are ineffective and Comin tend to run the whole show with no scrutiny. there were 9 original 'members', but interest is high and they are expanding rapidly. the meeting tomorrow ,6/3/6 is at the Empress hotel at 7:30 pm. no admittance ticket necessary but a phone call first, if you intend to go along, would be very welcome to ensure numbers are catered for. the group are not politically aligned and welcome input from any quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who's involved & what do they stand for? ................. the group are not politically aligned and welcome input from any quarter. They dont stand for anything then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Marge Joughin wants to know: "Are they Manx? If not who are they? Where do they come from? What is the end game? Who is financing them? Do they support population control?" Marge can't be there tomorrow but she is happy for the answers to be posted on this Forum as the Mannin Line is not the force it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 The three core principles are OPEN, ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT RIGOROUS CONTROL OF PUBLIC FINANCES A FAIR SOCIETY FOR ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 The three core principles are OPEN, ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT RIGOROUS CONTROL OF PUBLIC FINANCES A FAIR SOCIETY FOR ALL Well thats a start. Are we allowed to know if these aims are to pursued via any particular ideology ? Its usual for a political organisation to be guided to a greater or lesser extent by some form of social - economic belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who's involved & what do they stand for? They are a team/group of people that feel there is a need for an accountable Tynwald. The present members of government are ineffective and Comin tend to run the whole show with no scrutiny. there were 9 original 'members', but interest is high and they are expanding rapidly. the meeting tomorrow ,6/3/6 is at the Empress hotel at 7:30 pm. no admittance ticket necessary but a phone call first, if you intend to go along, would be very welcome to ensure numbers are catered for. the group are not politically aligned and welcome input from any quarter. Andrew Jessop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who is deciding what this belief is? This is extremely important. At the moment we have no idea who the members are - and in consequence what the stance on particular iissue will be. Most politicians would agree on the Core Principles but there appears to be a lot of work to do in deciding how to implement them. For public support this new organisation will be subjected to the minutest scrutiny and they must have the answers for enough of the public to change from voting for Independents to supporting an organisation and candidates of which at the moment they know little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I don't know of any over-riding ideology, but if it will help here are their main objectives, (draft) a, to build up, in constituencies across the Isle of Man, and as an organised networked movement, a critical mass of aware and active voters; constituents and taxpayers, with the aim of identifying, through the electorate, suitable candidates to stand for election to the Manx parliament. b, To encourage, support and assist those candidates before, during and after an election campaign and further if elected, with the continuing help of the Association to abide by an agreed core set of principles and policies in order to develop a more cohesive government leading to a fair and balanced society throughout the Isle of Man. c, To encourage an increase in the percentage turnout of the electorate, by raising awareness of the importance to the electorate of exercising their democratic right to vote - a consequence of which will be that they can help to shape and secure the future of the Isle of Man. My notes aren't complete, so any omissions are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Who does the thinking for the candidates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Not even worth a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 skrappey, I am sorry you feel like that. The new group will only be worth consideration when they are willing to answer questions such as this? I am playing devils advocate and this is a question which must be answered as in this Island - and I understand you have not been here long - we are very concerned about who pulls the strings. It may be that all who put themselves forward under the banner of this new grouping will have their own policies, thought out by themselves which they passionately believe in. But I understand there will be some control if people want to continue having support. My question is a fair one. How will this be exercised and by whom? Who will do the thinking - the candidate who the public have perhaps voted in or some hidden group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Today's Sunday Opinion programme can be heard here. Sunday Opinion For those who can't listen to it, the three representatives from the group talking were: Roger Tomlinson Steve Corrin Joe Duffy And also there for the fame and VIP factor: Emma Christian, who unfortunately was in the studio but was out of action with a throat infection or something. Personally, I think these folk should at least be given a chance. I think we'll be hearing more from/about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 For what its worth I personally think the emergence of party politics would be the best thing that could possibly happen to manx political life. However, any political organisation needs to be guided by a core set of values. We have been able, so far, to have an insight into 3 laudable aims which most political parties would be willing to sign on to. The key question is exactly how those aims are to be achieved. For example, I would absolutely not vote for any party which set out to achieve those values by means of the CPBs Brtish Road to socialism and Alternative Economic Strategy. Neither would I entertain voting for a party which set out to achieve those aims via a Thatcherite strategy of "You cant buck the market" and shrinkage of the state apparatus. These are the key questions and Charles is spot on in his assessment that any political organisation has to set out its guiding principles. Very interesting development though. With any luck it may encourage the Manx Labour Party and Mec Vannin to reawaken their one time interest in seeking Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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