hissingsid Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 The questions just display the lack of intelligence that the media have, inane questions. I have stopped listening to them they are embarrassing and you cannot even understand what mumble Moulton is on about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Declan said: Stop broadcasting them. Stop steaming them. Demand dignity from the office. But the sad thing is that that think they are being dignified. You and I and practically everyone else see Quayle badly reciting badly-written PR guff followed by touchy and confusing replies. He sees it as Howard Quayle World Statesman and there are enough people employed to fuel his delusions that they will continue. The rest of us may be cringing, but they can go on like this forever. But the real problem isn't that they are pompous and self-important where they should be dignified - it's that they think being 'dignified' is the beginning and end of the job. There's no strategy, no grasp of what the options are and no real attempt to explains things to the public. All you need to do is sound 'presidential' and the minions will do all that for you. None of which that the press conferences should be ignored or stopped, irritating though they may be. The fact that even the minimal inquisitiveness of the Manx media seems to offend them - hence the two questions rule and now these ridiculous 'Pools', as if the world's press were all clamouring to get in - should tell us that being ignored is exactly what they want. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: But the sad thing is that that think they are being dignified. You and I and practically everyone else see Quayle badly reciting badly-written PR guff followed by touchy and confusing replies. He sees it as Howard Quayle World Statesman and there are enough people employed to fuel his delusions that they will continue. The rest of us may be cringing, but they can go on like this forever. But the real problem isn't that they are pompous and self-important where they should be dignified - it's that they think being 'dignified' is the beginning and end of the job. There's no strategy, no grasp of what the options are and no real attempt to explains things to the public. All you need to do is sound 'presidential' and the minions will do all that for you. None of which that the press conferences should be ignored or stopped, irritating though they may be. The fact that even the minimal inquisitiveness of the Manx media seems to offend them - hence the two questions rule and now these ridiculous 'Pools', as if the world's press were all clamouring to get in - should tell us that being ignored is exactly what they want. This is very probably your best-ever post Roger. Every word hits the target. As I’ve found myself unable any longer to listen to Quayle ‘badly reciting badly-written PR guff’ I steeled myself for yesterday’s great ‘lockdown-lifter‘ speech. Dear god that man’s amateurish presentation is like fingernails on a blackboard. Every inflection, every cadence, every intonation delivered wrongly, haltingly and with self-evident lack of full understanding of the flow and intent of the communication. If I was actually present I’d find it impossible not to point out just how shockingly bad it is. But as you say, the great statesman doesn’t even need to subject himself to the indignity of being questioned. It’s all awful. Just awful. Edited May 19, 2020 by Uhtred 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Churchillian 9 minutes ago, Uhtred said: This is very probably your best-ever post Roger. Every word hits the target. As I’ve found myself unable any longer to listen to Quayle ‘badly reciting badly-written PR guff’ I steeled myself for yesterday’s great ‘lockdown-lifter‘ speech. Dear god that man’s amateurish presentation is like fingernails on a blackboard. Every inflection, every cadence, every intonation delivered wrongly, haltingly and with self-evident lack of full understanding of the flow and intent of the communication. If I was actually present I’d find it impossible not to point out just how shockingly bad it is. But as you say, the great statesman doesn’t even need to subject himself to the indignity of being questioned. It’s all awful. Just awful. They are hardly Churchillian, in fact I am sure if you could see his hands there would be one of his fingers pointing at each word he is reading...………... Edited May 19, 2020 by Boris Johnson 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Mannin Line was good yesterday and today . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Uhtred said: This is very probably your best-ever post Roger. Every word hits the target. As I’ve found myself unable any longer to listen to Quayle ‘badly reciting badly-written PR guff’ I steeled myself for yesterday’s great ‘lockdown-lifter‘ speech. Dear god that man’s amateurish presentation is like fingernails on a blackboard. Every inflection, every cadence, every intonation delivered wrongly, haltingly and with self-evident lack of full understanding of the flow and intent of the communication. If I was actually present I’d find it impossible not to point out just how shockingly bad it is. But as you say, the great statesman doesn’t even need to subject himself to the indignity of being questioned. It’s all awful. Just awful. HQ's presentation is not the best but he is not the worst by any means of those who have spoken at the press conferences. Looking further afield look at Trump and de Pfeffel. HQ is accused of getting narked at questions well he seems to react much better than Trump, doesn't hide away from the media like de Pfeffel. I am not holding up HQ up as a shinning example but maybe we are slightly over critical 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhtred Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Lost Login said: HQ's presentation is not the best but he is not the worst by any means of those who have spoken at the press conferences. Looking further afield look at Trump and de Pfeffel. HQ is accused of getting narked at questions well he seems to react much better than Trump, doesn't hide away from the media like de Pfeffel. I am not holding up HQ up as a shinning example but maybe we are slightly over critical I wasn’t suggesting he’s necessarily the worst, simply that he’s very, very, poor. We all deserve censure to a degree (some a lot more than others!) that someone of such profoundly limited ability generally, and truly miserable verbal communication skills specifically, ends up as CM. If that doesn’t illustrate that there’s a fault(s) in the system, I don’t know what does. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I thought Hamer was the worst so far. He seemed to find reading very difficult. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 When you are dead, you don't know you are dead, its only difficult for others ! It's the same when you are stupid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub3 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 49 minutes ago, Lost Login said: HQ's presentation is not the best but he is not the worst by any means of those who have spoken at the press conferences. Looking further afield look at Trump and de Pfeffel. HQ is accused of getting narked at questions well he seems to react much better than Trump, doesn't hide away from the media like de Pfeffel. I am not holding up HQ up as a shinning example but maybe we are slightly over critical FFS Trump has millions of supporters, HQ has a few hundred at best. Let's be frank he is a pompous obnoxious knuckle dragger with a farming background who thinks he is important, and that is only in the eyes of a few landowners who massage his ego from time to time. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Beelzebub3 said: FFS Trump has millions of supporters, HQ has a few hundred at best. Let's be frank he is a pompous obnoxious knuckle dragger with a farming background who thinks he is important, and that is only in the eyes of a few landowners who massage his ego from time to time. I never realised Trump was a farmer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, NoTail said: I thought Hamer was the worst so far. He seemed to find reading very difficult. He is a terrible public speaker but it is telling that they'll let Harmer have a go but won't even let Cregeen or Thomas loose on the podium. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Does Harmer have a stammer? Like not just nerves, but an actual medical one? That's the impression I get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 It shouldn't come as any surprise that not everyone is great at public speaking. Mr. Bell used to get ridiculous amounts of nonsensical shite abuse thrown at him but he was a very good public speaker. Speaking to audiences is not natural to many people. It takes practice and experience to see improvement. Confidence is a huge part of it. So yes, I guess some do struggle a bit. But cut them some slack. I've no doubt some of people abusing them on here could barely string a couple of sentences together in similar circumstances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WKRP Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Well done to GEF and ELS for the live coverage of Christians last marathon, what a slight to see at St Johns! Thought it deserved of a live outside broadcast from PSB Manx Radio but I don't think they covered it at all, just an interview sometime after it finished. Mind you that was better than 3FM who didn't even have the story on their website late time I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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