Mr Newbie Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Scotty said: He was brought up with black friends and later colleagues and is no stranger to different races. So he’s just like Mowgli in the Jungle Book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, woolley said: What a curious comment. They don't keep them in cupboards, you know. I don't waste my money on RT etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Login Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, wrighty said: Just listened to the whole exchange. Stu certainly said some clumsy things - the bit about not being more privileged for example - but I don’t think he was racist, Trouble with racism accusations, particularly for those made against people working in the public sector (NHS, local authorities etc - public broadcaster too I suppose) is that they’re investigated with a “guilty until proven guilty” approach (not my line - I think I got it from a book about NHS whistleblowing) - Stu may not get out of this, and unlike Clarkson I doubt Amazon will be calling. I would agree that he was not being racist but I think that some of the things he was saying and views he was expressing where not acceptable for a presenter on a public service broadcaster. I do have a trouble with regard to some racism allegations as occasionally you see or hear somebody being abused, sometimes racially, and just because that person is of a different race does not mean you are being racist. If I was walking down the street and somebody just hit me with no provocation I would probably give a fairly abusive response and the form of it would probably be based on an obvious characteristic of that person which might be colour. In such a case you are giving out abuse simply because of the other parties actions not because of the colour of their skin If on the other hand you simply have derogatory views about them purely based on the colour of their skin or would treat them differently because of that you are. I would not describe Stu as a racist, I would rather see him as being completely unaware or uneducated on the matter. Many of us are in the same boat and we need to change or the discrimination/prejudice will continue. Regrettably I have to include myself in that as whilst I would like to think I don't hold those views I know I have some preconceptions. Finally I think that this matter does show why many choose to post anonymously. It is not because we have anything to hide but it is fairly easy to say something very clumsily without meaning to be offensive which will be quickly forgotten if you do so anonymously but can impact your day job if you do so in your own name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTailT Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: I've just been listening to it too. Agree with what said. I thought he didn't do great deal wrong. There was a lot of paranoid nonsense spoken. Including some knobber who questioned manx radios employment policy and talking about how people dont get interviews if they have surnames that indicate they are black. The callers need to wake up. If what Stu said is gonna be perceived as racist, we need to stop allowing the Gov to fund trade missions to South Africa to bring people over. I know plenty of Saffies here and if you want racism.. get them drunk and let them rumble. Stu is always on the border with certain topics and I personally don't see anything overly offensive made. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, P.K. said: I don't waste my money on RT etc There's this thing called the information superhighway........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooahhdoo Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Scotty said: I once worked with Stu Peters and found him to be well read and traveled, with a very wide range of views. He was always kind and thoughtful when dealing with a very wide spectrum of customers. Stu was not privileged and was kicked out to find work and stand on his own two feet at an early age. He was brought up with black friends and later colleagues and is no stranger to different races. Stu has a dark sense of fun and a dry sense of humour and is no stranger to sarcasm. One thing Stu is not , is racist. Too many “ know fuck all’s” throwing their two pence worth in without having a clue. I doubt many at all on here , never mind Facebook have even met the guy. So sad that life is this fickle and so many people are so shallow. What is it with people being offended without truly knowing why they may be ? Stu Peters has strong beliefs and stands up for them and to be counted. The whole point of his show is to stimulate debate. That word is alien to most Facebook warriors. I feel very sorry that Stu has been picked on by a few, ( who probably know each other) and is not able to counter the stupid and childish comments, not just on Facebook , but on here too. ( you know who you are ) Yep, the Facebook lynchmob cannot even be bothered listening to the broadcast even after several links. "Its too long but he's a racist anyway" #ReinstateStuPeters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, dooahhdoo said: Yep, the Facebook lynchmob cannot even be bothered listening to the broadcast even after several links. "Its too long but he's a racist anyway" #ReinstateStuPeters I've listened to it and I think it's unacceptable. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, TurricanII said: I was desperately waiting for the first caller to articulate the racism that they are experiencing on a daily basis. Stu clearly doesn't know what it, so why not tell him? Something is made of the term 'blacker than black' but he clearly is describing a very dark skin pigment which is in the context of the discussion. This is not racism (the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others). Describing someone as milk-bottle white similarly is not racist. Facebook people are calling for complaints to be sent to cc@iomcc.im, and copied to Manx Radio. Perhaps those who feel his handling of a difficult topic was not complaint-worthy can email the same email address. I have emailed my support, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, TurricanII said: I was desperately waiting for the first caller to articulate the racism that they are experiencing on a daily basis. Stu clearly doesn't know what it, so why not tell him? Something is made of the term 'blacker than black' but he clearly is describing a very dark skin pigment which is in the context of the discussion. This is not racism (the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others). Describing someone as milk-bottle white similarly is not racist. Facebook people are calling for complaints to be sent to cc@iomcc.im, and copied to Manx Radio. Perhaps those who feel his handling of a difficult topic was not complaint-worthy can email the same email address. These Facebook warriors needs shooting. Wankers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, dooahhdoo said: Yep, the Facebook lynchmob cannot even be bothered listening to the broadcast even after several links. "Its too long but he's a racist anyway" #ReinstateStuPeters Have to just say that I agree. I tried to “like” your post but I have exceeded my limit of daily likes I didn’t know they were rationed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: I've listened to it and I think it's unacceptable. Sorry to ask but cant find a link to what he said..you have one ? Or anyone else have please ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, HeliX said: I've listened to it and I think it's unacceptable. It seemed to me that Jordan largely full of it and Stu did well all things considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Numbnuts said: Sorry to ask but cant find a link to what he said..you have one ? Or anyone else have please ?? A few posts/pages back I sent it to wrighty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 https://www.manxradio.com/radioplayer/fm/od/items/the-late-show-3rd-june/?fbclid=IwAR09bxgVdXSXezoUv5U3j-XEqoydVUfCILQENDhamAvUeAdkk7wz3G_o9Fs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Newbie Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) Suspended. The woke folk won. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=56038 What's the betting the caller doesn’t even live in the IOM? It looks like a coordinated stunt the speed at which the “outrage” has happened and all the heavy content decrying him as been uploaded to social media. Edited June 4, 2020 by Mr Newbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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