Manx Radio

[The Dog's Dangly Bits]

5 minutes ago, peter pan said:

Ironic you would talk about suppressing proper debate when Manx Forums has routinely rejected people from signing up, and the site is somewhat reminiscent of an echo chamber. 

Cheers TJ/Boredom 

[HeliX]

2 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

Of course you are.  But that doesn't mean your nonsense is going to go unchallenged.

I wouldn't want to go unchallenged.

[TheTeapot]

This fiasco has made The Spectator https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-march-of-progressive-censorship (may be paywalled)

[The Dog's Dangly Bits]

46 minutes ago, Mr Newbie said:

Thinking that you are other people’s thought police is a very worrying conclusion. The experience and beliefs of someone who has lived through different times than someone else should not be a trigger for outrage. Go back and look at some of the genuinely disgustingly racist TV shows that aired in the 1970s. Someone like Peters probably lived through that and it means that someone of that generation will always have a slightly different perspective to some millennial tit watching YouTube clips about a movement they have no direct connection to happening in another continent. He was an easy target. Just like someones grandad is probably an equally easy target for having a mind formed in an entirely different world. It doesn’t mean that they are racist, or that they support racism. It means that they probably need a bit of gentle education, not have their head rammed into the stocks and pelted with fruit on Twitter and Facebook by some smug millennial virtue signing wankers who have lived through nothing and who are trying to get some vicarious thrill out of protesting about something they saw on YouTube.

Good post.  This is the thing now.

Everything is black and white (if you'll pardon the pun which good old Jordan would probably think is racist).

You can't have an opinion anymore which in anyway goes against the narrative of the soft as shit serially offended brigade.  You are either racist or not.

It's very similar to being in the work place and having to adjust everyone's personality and behaviour to the weakest common denominator. 

[peter pan]

3 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

This fiasco has made The Spectator https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-march-of-progressive-censorship (may be paywalled)

The spectator is a right of centre-right wing publication which posts "mostly factual" content, and it isn't up for white people to make the determination if something is or isn't racist.  If a black person says "What you said was racist" then it's not up for you, as the white person, to make that call.  The same as if a black person went up to a white person and did a horrible Scottish accent, and the white person said that was offensive/racist/whatever it may be, the black person wouldn't be in the position to tell them why it isn't.  

[Gladys]

Wow, and again the IOM is shown up for being somewhat insular in their views, shall we say?

[TomTucker]

2 hours ago, HeliX said:

There is some anti-Manx sentiment on the Island. Not sure it's particularly pervasive though.

I’m embarrassed to be manx at present 

[gettafa]

The place is full of your gammons laddie.

[Mr Newbie]

7 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Wow, and again the IOM is shown up for being somewhat insular in their views, shall we say?

FFS that really makes us look special after the Guardian piece the other week about us jailing children.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-march-of-progressive-censorship

[Declan]

7 minutes ago, Gladys said:

Wow, and again the IOM is shown up for being somewhat insular in their views, shall we say?

Lets hope no one listens later to David Quirk and the bloke who once met a shy black person and thinks that mean black people don't like "whitey".

[P.K.]

2 hours ago, Gladys said:

Years ago, I worked for an overseas development organisation, much of their work was in sub-saharan Africa.  They had to lay their annual accounts before Parliament, which meant quite  bit of to'ing and fro'ing with the responsible HMG dept in the drafts.  A picture was pulled because it showed the wife of an in-country rep sitting on a Range Rover with several local children (cant remember which country) happily climbing on it.  The reason was that it was patronising and shouldn't show a white woman amongst black children, it should have been a black woman.  That was over 20 years ago.  No matter that the local rep was coordinating the delivery of condoms, mosquito nets and basic water supply equipment. 

I'm no fan of Stacey Dooley, can't stand her voice, but she was recently criticised in exactly the same way for holding a black child.

[Gladys]

1 minute ago, Declan said:

Lets hope no one listens later to David Quirk and the bloke who once met a shy black person and thinks that mean black people don't like "whitey".

What are you talking about? 

[Mr Newbie]

2 minutes ago, Declan said:

Lets hope no one listens later to David Quirk and the bloke who once met a shy black person and thinks that mean black people don't like "whitey".

Is Eddie Loweys towel head remark still on Hansard? 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Mr Newbie

[peter pan]

1 hour ago, Mr Newbie said:

Thinking that you are other people’s thought police is a very worrying conclusion. The experience and beliefs of someone who has lived through different times than someone else should not be a trigger for outrage. Go back and look at some of the genuinely disgustingly racist TV shows that aired in the 1970s. Someone like Peters probably lived through that and it means that someone of that generation will always have a slightly different perspective to some millennial tit watching YouTube clips about a movement they have no direct connection to happening in another continent. He was an easy target. Just like someones grandad is probably an equally easy target for having a mind formed in an entirely different world. It doesn’t mean that they are racist, or that they support racism. It means that they probably need a bit of gentle education, not have their head rammed into the stocks and pelted with fruit on Twitter and Facebook by some smug millennial virtue signing wankers who have lived through nothing and who are trying to get some vicarious thrill out of protesting about something they saw on YouTube.

Well, when in fact Jordan did try and "gently educate" by having a discussion with him, Stu carried on on his racially charged, "blacker than black" tirade.  Gently educating only gets you so far, and if people refuse to listen then it has to go over his head.  Stu refused to listen and was given multiple chances by multiple different callers to show some open-mindedness, but failed on all accounts.  But you guys on MF would rather it be a conspiracy concocted by the millennials to bring the "failed experiment" of multiculturalism to the Isle of Man.

 

Black Lives Matter has never just been about police brutality in the US, it's been about hearing voices and opinions of black and non-white people as well and raising their voices.  You don't need to have a personal connection to a killing that happened in the US to want to address issues of racism in your own backyard.  

[Roger Mexico]

52 minutes ago, Mr Newbie said:

Thinking that you are other people’s thought police is a very worrying conclusion. The experience and beliefs of someone who has lived through different times than someone else should not be a trigger for outrage. Go back and look at some of the genuinely disgustingly racist TV shows that aired in the 1970s. Someone like Peters probably lived through that and it means that someone of that generation will always have a slightly different perspective to some millennial tit watching YouTube clips about a movement they have no direct connection to happening in another continent. He was an easy target. Just like someones grandad is probably an equally easy target for having a mind formed in an entirely different world. It doesn’t mean that they are racist, or that they support racism. It means that they probably need a bit of gentle education, not have their head rammed into the stocks and pelted with fruit on Twitter and Facebook by some smug millennial virtue signing wankers who have lived through nothing and who are trying to get some vicarious thrill out of protesting about something they saw on YouTube.

I'm sure you don't mean to, but if you think about it you're being really insulting to Stu by implying not just that he's a bit of a racist, but that he's too old and decrepit to change his views as well.