HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, HeliX said: You can't really claim someone not wanting to rehash an argument you already enacted in bad faith for a second time as a win. @P.K. Apparently I'm a sucker because I've gone back and aggregated the links for you. Here they are again. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/results-of-racism-research-released/ http://www.isleofman.com/News/details/35041/-racist-students-make-us-look-like-a-backwater- https://www.theregister.com/2009/05/01/isle_of_man_rumpus/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/taxi-driver-admits-screaming-abuse-at-rival/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mlc-candidate-subjected-to-racism-and-islamophobia/ https://www.judgments.im/content/ET 19-12 Versluijs V Dept of Home Affairs, Fire and Rescue.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/jobs-search-hiring-racial-discrimination-resume-whitening-callbacks https://www.theguardian.com/money/2009/oct/18/racism-discrimination-employment-undercover https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38751307 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, HeliX said: Hard to say, most people won't really admit to it when asked will they? The study done here a decade ago suggested that 5% of people admitted to being openly racist and 43% said they had "sympathy for racist views". What was the sample size? Was it done in Pulrose ? You are utterly delusional if you think 4 in every 10 people sympathise with racism or racist views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, gettafa said: I have inherited much of my family estate. In your world, what should I now do in light of 'white privilege'? (serious question by the way) There isn't really much you can do about it directly. It's not a term designed to make people feel bad about themselves for being born white. It's a way to frame other issues in better context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 I feel bad. Fucking bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, gettafa said: I feel bad. Fucking bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: @P.K. Apparently I'm a sucker because I've gone back and aggregated the links for you. Here they are again. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/results-of-racism-research-released/ http://www.isleofman.com/News/details/35041/-racist-students-make-us-look-like-a-backwater- https://www.theregister.com/2009/05/01/isle_of_man_rumpus/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/taxi-driver-admits-screaming-abuse-at-rival/ https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/mlc-candidate-subjected-to-racism-and-islamophobia/ https://www.judgments.im/content/ET 19-12 Versluijs V Dept of Home Affairs, Fire and Rescue.pdf https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/17/jobs-search-hiring-racial-discrimination-resume-whitening-callbacks https://www.theguardian.com/money/2009/oct/18/racism-discrimination-employment-undercover https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38751307 You have quoted The Guardian and what their journalists have found. Jeez. Seriously, would you respect someone if they quoted The Daily Mail and The Sun to back their viewpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Newbie said: Anyone might think that you work for a rival news agency Declan with an illogical rant like that. It seems to be the station and the presenter that you have an issues with. Not what actually happened. I don't work in any news media. I do have a problem with Manx Radio because I'm paying for it and repeatedly over many years I've not had value from it. It's a station for other people. Failure to act on the biased way the two sets of contributors were treated would have confirmed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, HeliX said: Looks like you got it in one. I feel scared now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, gettafa said: You have quoted The Guardian and what their journalists have found. Jeez. Seriously, would you respect someone if they quoted The Daily Mail and The Sun to back their viewpoint. He's also posted a link to the recent fire fighter case. Not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: What was the sample size? Was it done in Pulrose ? You are utterly delusional if you think 4 in every 10 people sympathise with racism or racist views. 325. The numbers seem fairly consistent with other Western countries. Do you have an alternative survey or study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, HeliX said: 325. The numbers seem fairly consistent with other Western countries. Do you have an alternative survey or study? No but I have real life every day experiences that conflict with what you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, gettafa said: You have quoted The Guardian and what their journalists have found. Jeez. Seriously, would you respect someone if they quoted The Daily Mail and The Sun to back their viewpoint. If you don't like the Guardian links just click through to the original studies. They're not opinion pieces. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0001839216639577 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, The Dog's Dangly Bits said: No but I have real life every day experiences that conflict with what you say. Anecdotal evidence doesn't carry as much value as studies because it has considerably more bias and less control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, HeliX said: She would've been discriminated against for her colour countless times throughout her life. No your right, she was discriminated against, because she was of German extraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Holte End said: No your right, she was discriminated against, because she was of German extraction. And had she not only been German but also looked different to the majority of the population due to skin colour she'd have been further discriminated against than she was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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