parchedpeas Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: You lot are destroying language. The shame is that you don't even know it. You can't destroy something that isn't owned. Language is a function, not an object. If words need to be torn to pieces so that language can function then that's what will happen. And that's a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake me up Judy Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Are you saying that language has no value ? That it's equivalent to number function or computer code ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Shake me up Judy said: Are you saying that language has no value ? That it's equivalent to number function or computer code ? This is another aspect that is worrying. Language is the output of thought - the corollary of that is pretty easy to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sentience Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Declan said: That's where my objection to the program comes from. People are reading the transcript of one call and saying he did nothing wrong. But a transcript cannot show him scoffing at the anti-racist callers, interrupting and it only includes one call not the whole show where he was "playing devil's advocate" towards anti-racist callers and having a good laugh with those that disagreed with them. He didn't challenge one callers use of the word coloured and when questioned on it said it was because "he might kick off". You can't play devil's advocate to only one side of a debate - on a state-funded broadcaster. From trawling through all of this topic, I think this posters 'real' issue is in the regular and oft quoted line 'State funded broadcaster'. He/She is using this Stu Peters non issue debate as a carrier for his/her real issue with the station. Edited June 11, 2020 by Sentience 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parchedpeas Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 16 hours ago, Shake me up Judy said: Are you saying that language has no value ? That it's equivalent to number function or computer code ? Of course language has value, but it is subjective so it can never be right or wrong. Whether you comply or resist the societal lanugage "norms" is part of the communicative function. Accepting and defining one correct English is as much a political statement as deviating from a standard is. In short, relax and embrace the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shake me up Judy Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, parchedpeas said: Of course language has value, but it is subjective so it can never be right or wrong. Whether you comply or resist the societal lanugage "norms" is part of the communicative function. Accepting and defining one correct English is as much a political statement as deviating from a standard is. In short, relax and embrace the difference. Of course language is objective. Otherwise we couldn't communicate or have this 'conversation'. You've used the words 'right' and 'wrong'. QED ? This isn't the place to discuss this though. I think you're talking bollocks but if you want to continue then begin a new thread. Some examples would be helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I notice that Nigel Farage has been sacked from LBC for not conforming to the correct view. Mind you he is a pratt and a bigot, I would not put Stu in the same category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 22 hours ago, hissingsid said: He did not complain about the price of Manx milk he explained he used the cheaper version from across, which is just as good, because of his profit margin which makes good business sense. Rumour has it the creamery are only selling white milk. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 No Albert, they sell Blue, Green and Red!!! Even in a Coffeeshop the price difference of milks is not going to be the difference in profit and loss. The ratio of food to coffee or the volume of coffee sales might? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Not sure I'd agree with you there Kopk - catering produce from UK & Ireland can be significantly cheaper than local Normally with high mark up items like coffee it wouldn't really matter, but the Coffee Exchange was (is?) in a prominent location with I dare say sizeable overheads to cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 What's the price difference? 10p a litre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 £2.30 for four litres of milk that is vastly superior to local milk in Coop. and a lot cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog's Dangly Bits Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, hissingsid said: £2.30 for four litres of milk that is vastly superior to local milk in Coop. and a lot cheaper. "Vastly superior ". Go on then, I'm going to call Bullshit on that one. Ffs Edited June 11, 2020 by The Dog's Dangly Bits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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