Manx Radio

[Donald Trumps]

1 hour ago, gettafa said:

Over 6,000 people signed the petition against the toilet tax and Tynwald members took not one bit of notice other than to sneer at it. Many will wonder what is the point.

Howard Quayle was a big toilet taxer btw, but of course he's everybody's darling just now.

Not mine!

[gettafa]

4 minutes ago, Donald Trumps said:

Not mine!

Under the circumstances of where we are at with the pandemic, it would have been churlish of me to suggest that Howard was anything other than 'everybody's darling'. That said, the phrase has hint of sarcasm about it.

However, I am starting to become frightened to go to sleep for fear of having one of those lockdown dreams many people seem to be experiencing. The vision is one of our Howard in a pair of Gef The Mongoose produced SpeedosⓇ  

[woolley]

1 hour ago, Declan said:

I did a random check on the two petitions. 
 

The one objecting to Stu’s behaviour the ten signatures I clicked on were from Island based people. 
 

The pro Stu one was the first ten were from England, Wales, Spain.
 

It looks like Toby Young encourages his  followers to sign on Twitter a couple of days ago. None of whom will have listened to the show, or known that Stu was supposed to be the impartial moderator rather than a participant. 

 

He isn't supposed to be an impartial moderator in this genre, for the umpteenth time. 

[John Wright]

1 hour ago, woolley said:

He isn't supposed to be an impartial moderator in this genre, for the umpteenth time. 

His contracted role is important, however. Was he contracted as a shock jock or a phone in host. Very different?

[Declan]

1 hour ago, woolley said:

He isn't supposed to be an impartial moderator in this genre, for the umpteenth time. 

Well maybe that’s the lesson that needs learning here. 

[Max Power]

3 hours ago, gettafa said:

Over 6,000 people signed the petition against the toilet tax and Tynwald members took not one bit of notice other than to sneer at it. Many will wonder what is the point.

Howard Quayle was a big toilet taxer btw, but of course he's everybody's darling just now.

The petition to save the MGP in 2012 had 10,000 signatures. John Shimmin dismissed petitions, one of the only forms of protest available to plebs. Obviously the only thing governments take notice of is direct action?

[Declan]

I do accept messages just the inbox is full, due to my subscription running out and subscriptions not being available at this time. 
 

Stu - you were not ambushed. Residents of the Isle of Man, rang a phone-in show on A station  their taxes pay. On a subject you had commented on publicly that day. 
 

I don’t support your sacking.  But this suggestion of “an ambush”, the continued lack of contrition or recognition that the show went wrong, and the lack of an apology even a merely-mouthed one along the lines of “I’m sorry if I unintentionally upset people” is pushing me into that camp. 
 

If there had been no recognition from the station that this was a fuck-up it would have sent a pretty clear signal to the thousands that demonstrated in support of BLM or expressed concern about your handling (and within the admittedly limited pool of my Facebook circle it’s been pretty universal condemnation) that Manx Radio isn’t for us. Which is a fair enough editorial decision for Energy or 3fm to make but not  for a station our taxes pay for that our taxes pay for. 

[Donald Trumps]

I don't suppose there can be a defence union for shock jocks

Not that Mr Peters would describe himself as one

[Max Power]

31 minutes ago, Declan said:

I do accept messages just the inbox is full, due to my subscription running out and subscriptions not being available at this time. 
 

Stu - you were not ambushed. Residents of the Isle of Man, rang a phone-in show on A station  their taxes pay. On a subject you had commented on publicly that day. 
 

I don’t support your sacking.  But this suggestion of “an ambush”, the continued lack of contrition or recognition that the show went wrong, and the lack of an apology even a merely-mouthed one along the lines of “I’m sorry if I unintentionally upset people” is pushing me into that camp. 
 

If there had been no recognition from the station that this was a fuck-up it would have sent a pretty clear signal to the thousands that demonstrated in support of BLM or expressed concern about your handling (and within the admittedly limited pool of my Facebook circle it’s been pretty universal condemnation) that Manx Radio isn’t for us. Which is a fair enough editorial decision for Energy or 3fm to make but not  for a station our taxes pay for that our taxes pay for. 

Declan, you have heard the recording and read the transcript. What do you think that Stu said or did wrong?

You'll not convince me that the calls were not coordinated and planned by the first participants. And the more I listen, they were not debating anything, just making inaccurate statements forcefully. That seems to be the whole basis of the BLM campaign.  

[Gladys]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

His contracted role is important, however. Was he contracted as a shock jock or a phone in host. Very different?

The name of the show was Late, Live and Unleashed, it was not Newsnight.   I doubt his his contract would makes distinction between the two, (unless there is a legal term for shock jock) but I guess management would have approved the nature of the programme. 

[woolley]

1 hour ago, John Wright said:

His contracted role is important, however. Was he contracted as a shock jock or a phone in host. Very different?

Probably neither, I would imagine.

[woolley]

1 hour ago, Declan said:

Well maybe that’s the lesson that needs learning here. 

I don't think so. Are we such children that a presenter cannot have a viewpoint?

[quilp]

That really depends on how far some peoples heads are still stuck up the arse of 70's and 80's lefty student politics. 

[John Wright]

19 minutes ago, Gladys said:

The name of the show was Late, Live and Unleashed, it was not Newsnight.   I doubt his his contract would makes distinction between the two, (unless there is a legal term for shock jock) but I guess management would have approved the nature of the programme. 

I’m not suggesting it’s Newsnight. I’m trying to point out that responsibility varies with nature of retainer. It also varies with how that responsibility is discharged.

And I’m doing it the fairest most neutral terms possible.

[Declan]

 

3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Declan, you have heard the recording and read the transcript. What do you think that Stu said or did wrong?

You'll not convince me that the calls were not coordinated and planned by the first participants. And the more I listen, they were not debating anything, just making inaccurate statements forcefully. That seems to be the whole basis of the BLM campaign.  

I don’t care whether they had a chat beforehand and all decided to ring in. It can’t be the first time that’s happened. Stu’s the professional phone-in host - it’s part of the job dealing with difficult callers.  School leavers in contact centres get training on dealing with difficult callers. But a phone-in host of twenty years, was “ambushed” because some callers were prepared and lost control of his tongue? Come on!
 

I think I’ve explained my issues with the show. This is my reaction to the show I posted immediately after listening...

“I’ve listened to it.  I don’t think Stu is consciously racist. But he is totally unempathtic towards the experience of the first two male callers, interupts throughout openly laughs at them. The female caller that follows is at least spoken to with respect, but then has a good blokey chuckle about her with the next caller. 

The best radio phone in hosts respect the callers, listen to them draw out their experience. There is empathy and they don’t simply scoff and dismiss uncomfortable views. 

Manx Radio will never win my listening if this is the way its presenters treat the public. ”

After reading the transcript of the first call I think the phrase “White privilege” triggered him and he made some ridiculous comparisons to being ginger or fat. He may not be racist - it’s more likely he just doesn’t care about the issue and so spoke with reckless lack of sensitivity.