bloodycomeover Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) a Edited April 16, 2021 by bloodycomeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, HeliX said: Merely commenting on your complete lack of a counterargument. I am not argumentative at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, bloodycomeover said: There's the side of the fence that sees the likes of Tommy Robinson and Anjem Choudary as the hate preachers that they are, and the side that chooses to ignore that side of them because they say the things those people want to hear. You need to ask yourself some serious questions about people who fall in to the latter group. 15 minutes ago, pongo said: Well you kind of are here. I do understand them. They're self-entitled populists who ultimately believe in blood and soil nonsense - that they have birth rights. And in stupid ideas about shared culture. And all of that stupid nonsense. And around that they build a whole structure of stupid excuses. Okay, I have ignored Tommy Robinson up until I watched his Oxford Union address, mainly writing him off as a hate preacher like Chowdrey. But at least I did watch the thing, which gave me an insight into what he is. @pongo you are just doing exactly what you are accusing Scotty of, lumping all these people as 'self entitled populists.' I'm absolutely sure there are a lot of them in these groups, Robinson may or may not be one, but there are also people living a nightmare because of small groups of people who refuse to live within the law. We don't have this sort of thing on the IoM but I can assure you that there are people out there who take advantage of the laws inability to address criminal behaviours due to the race of the offender. You seem happy in the belief that all is tickety boo and that what is a complex issue is a one sided fascist machine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, HeliX said: What part of one nutter killing people is an indication that refugees can't assimilate? This is the problem with Tommy Robinson's rhetoric. He does his level best to portray "refugees" and "migrants" as one cohesive, organised group dedicated to destroying whichever bit of British culture he fancies banging on about today. One refugee is no more responsible for the actions of another than you are for any given indigenous person you've never met. In his Oxford Union address he denies what you are saying. His main gripe, he says, is with the Police for their lack of action against lawbreakers amongst these groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, Max Power said: In his Oxford Union address he denies what you are saying. His main gripe, he says, is with the Police for their lack of action against lawbreakers amongst these groups. Well he would say that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I'm sure he's a really nice guy. Just a bit misunderstood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the stinking enigma Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Scotty said: Depends on which side of the fence you are on, like everything in life. Some so called refugee has just murdered three people for no reason whatsoever. Send them all home if they can’t assimilate. He fought for us in libya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: He fought for us in libya Which side was he on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 The anti Gaddafi one. The one that led to a mass influx of refugees into europe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: The anti Gaddafi one. The one that led to a mass influx of refugees into europe. The team we were backing who sodomised Gaddafi with a knife on tv? The good guys? Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Must admit, I did read it in the mail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 hours ago, HeliX said: This is the problem with Tommy Robinson's rhetoric. He does his level best to portray "refugees" and "migrants" as one cohesive, organised group dedicated to destroying whichever bit of British culture he fancies banging on about today. One refugee is no more responsible for the actions of another than you are for any given indigenous person you've never met. Yaxley-Lennon has built his rep mainly on claiming that grooming gangs in the UK are pretty much all from the Indian sub-continent and the police are powerless to prevent it in case they play the race card. Total bollox of course. He doesn't reserve all his hate just for them though. The most anti-EU town in the UK is Boston Lincs. This is because they had a lot of minimum wage Eastern Europeans working in the intensive agriculture sector that makes Boston prosperous. But folks don't like them doing work the locals wouldn't stoop to (literally). So Yaxley-Lennon's EDL just had to march through the town "in support" of the xenophobic thick as pigshit Daily Wail reading Little Englanders. locals... So now they're struggling to get labour in to work in the fields. A case of you actually having to get off your lazy backside to reap what you sow... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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