manxman1980 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, woolley said: Now we are being told there is no racial dimension to this. Usual pattern of denying what people have seen with their own eyes. A bit like we were told that the Pakistani grooming gangs were not racists grooming white girls. Next, the dreamers who have never faced these situations in their lives will be along to tell us how it will all go away as people learn to live together in harmony. It does happen. I am not denying that. I know of one area in the UK where a white person was discouraged from buying a house because he was not a Muslim. I am simply stating that such behaviour is not restricted to one group. There are plenty of deprived areas that are 'ruled' over by gangs who are engaged in crime such as drugs, guns, thefts and violence. You are only seeing what you want to see. You fail to recognise that every race has a subset who engage in anti-social and criminal behaviour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: It does happen. I am not denying that. I know of one area in the UK where a white person was discouraged from buying a house because he was not a Muslim. I am simply stating that such behaviour is not restricted to one group. There are plenty of deprived areas that are 'ruled' over by gangs who are engaged in crime such as drugs, guns, thefts and violence. You are only seeing what you want to see. You fail to recognise that every race has a subset who engage in anti-social and criminal behaviour And you are ignoring what you don't want to see, as does the BBC et al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 You hear about these no go areas, but no one ever says where exactly they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: You hear about these no go areas, but no one ever says where exactly they are. Foxdale. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 39 minutes ago, woolley said: Typical example and entirely as predicted. "It's not happening. Shoot the messenger and it will go away." Bollox. My post is entirely correct. People like you ARE part of the problem. But entirely as predicted you can't see it. There are none so blind... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: It does happen. I am not denying that. I know of one area in the UK where a white person was discouraged from buying a house because he was not a Muslim. I am simply stating that such behaviour is not restricted to one group. There are plenty of deprived areas that are 'ruled' over by gangs who are engaged in crime such as drugs, guns, thefts and violence. You are only seeing what you want to see. You fail to recognise that every race has a subset who engage in anti-social and criminal behaviour My point FWIW was that being a Muslim is not a racial issue but a religious one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: You hear about these no go areas, but no one ever says where exactly they are. I wouldn't doubt that affected locals would be able to show you though. And maybe even the Police who are reportedly reluctant to enter in some cases. It matters not whether it's religion, creed or crime based. It shouldn't be happening in this day and age. This shouldn't be a ghetto society, policed by certain groups of inhabitants. And in many cases it can justifiably be construed as having no intention of integrating into the society that has welcomed them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, NoTail said: My point FWIW was that being a Muslim is not a racial issue but a religious one. I'd argue it's a mental health one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, manxman1980 said: It does happen. I am not denying that. I know of one area in the UK where a white person was discouraged from buying a house because he was not a Muslim. I am simply stating that such behaviour is not restricted to one group. There are plenty of deprived areas that are 'ruled' over by gangs who are engaged in crime such as drugs, guns, thefts and violence. You are only seeing what you want to see. You fail to recognise that every race has a subset who engage in anti-social and criminal behaviour Very true. Yaxley-Lennon et al thrive on grooming gangs whose origins tend to be the sub-continent. Because they are pandering to their hard of thinking support base aka racists. There are also, unfortunately, white christian anglo-saxon grooming gangs who fail to make it into the alternative reality MMS because they won't sell newspapers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Manx Radio hits new low. Party Political Braodcasts on mannin line today. Thought I was tuning into Children Champion talking about the role. Instead the worse case electioneering. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trumps Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Was it for the governing conservative party or the fascinating new socialist party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Totally disagree I found it great that someone who had had experience in this field and does a lot of research into anything he is tasked with has been given this role. Rob worked long and hard on the Eastern plan and he sent correspondence with maps enclosures to everyone who had contacted him about it, he still keeps us up to date with developments. I thought it was a well conducted interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, P.K. said: There are none so blind... You're right. But not in the way you mean. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, P.K. said: There are also, unfortunately, white christian anglo-saxon grooming gangs who fail to make it into the alternative reality MMS because they won't sell newspapers.... Apologist wishful thinking. There is nothing on the same scale or so entrenched in one defined community. Edited June 24, 2020 by woolley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KERED Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Holte End said: Manx Radio hits new low. Party Political Braodcasts on mannin line today. Thought I was tuning into Children Champion talking about the role. Instead the worse case electioneering. Rob is a great man, and he spent the best part of an hour telling the listeners what a wonderful person he is. (Seems I have been underestimating the size of his ego.) I don't agree that it was a well conducted interview. All it needed was Micheal Aspel with the big red book, and it could have been "This Is Your Life." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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