woolley Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, quilp said: Aren't you over-egging it a little here, in the context of this thread? I'm pretty sure most people know the difference and recognise gratuitous hate speech and racial hatred when they hear it. Maybe you don't? This is the danger to free speech, isn't it? When you can say: "I haven't had any more privilege than you in my life. I'm a white man. You're a black man." and it be interpreted as racist in the hysterical terms we saw from assorted, overwhelmingly white, fruitcakes on Facebook etc, we really do need to be taking a look at where all of this is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Placating the myopic would be an arduous task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, gettafa said: OK, OK, I'll bite, even though everyone has been ignoring you. Did you hear the broadcast? No, did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, woolley said: This is the danger to free speech, isn't it? When you can say: "I haven't had any more privilege than you in my life. I'm a white man. You're a black man." and it be interpreted as racist in the hysterical terms we saw from assorted, overwhelmingly white, fruitcakes on Facebook etc, we really do need to be taking a look at where all of this is going. Regardless of the wild overreaction, its a pretty stupid thing to say to a young black person in an overwhelmingly white place. Just completely dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Kopek said: No, did you? You should, it might change your opinion? There again you've already formed an opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, woolley said: He certainly comes across as much more human than a lot of "highly professional" broadcasters. Wooley, you cannot read his ''Amateurism'' as more 'Human'? Do you mean he reflects a more usual racist attitude as exists in |Manx society, than would be appropriate for the current situation? This would reflect upon your own attitude than that of society in general! It is probably true, that the majority of Manx people do not give a damn what happens to ' poor stu peters., who is he? but............... I would like to think that they do care about racialism, in any form, anywhere in the World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, quilp said: Placating the myopic would be an arduous task. It would indeed but I suspect that is not what you meant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Kopek said: No, did you? I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, woolley said: Of course you can and it implies nothing of the sort. I'm sick of hearing about the BLM pressure group despite not caring a jot about it. Does that mean that you are sick of hearing about racial integration? '' Oh not that again''', I'm sick of hearing about that.. You seem to be somewhat behind the curve??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Max Power said: You should, it might change your opinion? There again you've already formed an opinion. Which is what I have said. Just not in the vein you woulld've liked ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Gladys said: I did. Bully for you Gladys, how many of your fellow travellors did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumble Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 What's a travellor Kopek? Has your screen got spit marks on it? Has the bottle run dry yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Kopek said: It would indeed but I suspect that is not what you meant? That is what I meant. Your view is obviously a narrow one and seemingly you've just apportioned fault without even listening to, or taking the time to read the full transcript before reaching your decision that Stu is just another dyed-in-the-wool racist. Hardly an objective dissection of the circumstances and meaning surrounding this debacle. But then again, this has been the case with thousands of other myopic band-wagoners inhabiting social media, they've had their minds made up by their mates, or seizing an opportunity to stand in the light of fake virtue. I would say the majority of Manxies, including those who investigated it see it now as a rather non-event being blown out of all proportion by an agenda-driven organisation. And in case you're wondering, I have read the transcript and listened to the sound clip more times than I care to mention in an attempt to consider both sides of this argument in context. It's over (or should be), let it go. Edited July 11, 2020 by quilp 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, woolley said: This is the danger to free speech, isn't it? When you can say: "I haven't had any more privilege than you in my life. I'm a white man. You're a black man." and it be interpreted as racist in the hysterical terms we saw from assorted, overwhelmingly white, fruitcakes on Facebook etc, we really do need to be taking a look at where all of this is going. Well PoC IOM have deliberately managed to kill off what most sane, well-balanced individuals would call a harmless, sometimes entertaining Isle of Man local radio phone-in chat show. Now quite how that helps to make US police forces be more mindful of their treatment of African Americans in difficult circumstances is completely beyond all. Hopefully they'll hold open discussion forums where I can ask them.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 50 minutes ago, Kopek said: Bully for you Gladys, how many of your fellow travellors did? Perhaps I have a clearer view? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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