pongo Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: You might but not everyone will. Internet access always has to be paid for whereas radio reception has always been free. It's not really free. That valuable spectrum space (TV, radio - terrestrial and satellite) could be sold off for very much more than is currently raised. The money could be much better spent on fibre and 5G. And then there is the cost of the broadcasting networks themselves. Edited December 17, 2021 by pongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 MR were 'given' the PB status to justify the subsidy. There is not any way we can know what part MR played in that, we were not consulted. MRs relationship to the Govt is like the SP. the TT and Liverpool , the Govt cannot think in new terms, we've always done it like this!!! MR listeners would soon find something else to listen to is MR failed. ( It could be better?). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, pongo said: Silence and thinking space is mostly preferable. Maybe radio isn’t for you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, A fool and his money..... said: I've never heard that expression before but that's the second time this week I've heard it. Is it a new thing? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kopek said: MR were 'given' the PB status to justify the subsidy. There is not any way we can know what part MR played in that, we were not consulted. MRs relationship to the Govt is like the SP. the TT and Liverpool , the Govt cannot think in new terms, we've always done it like this!!! MR listeners would soon find something else to listen to is MR failed. ( It could be better?). You would likely get 3fm , Energy and other commercial radio stations . Nothing wrong with that they are good at what they do . But don’t for one minute think they are ‘free ‘ they are financed by advertising and who do you think pays for that ? None other than yourself and the general public when they go out shopping and buy goods and services from businesses that advertise ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Kopek said: Means he lost his staff job!!! Untrue. I announced my departure to stand for Keys in the second hour of my last programme in June. As a freelance contractor, not staff since 2012. Do try harder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Strictly speaking, Stu's 'Skin in the Game' ended when He lost his stafff job with MR. However, he continued on a freelance basis, so maybe that is still some 'skin'? I don't know if Stu P still freelances for MR but that would raise some questions............ Should he get a Govt wage and a subsidised fee from MR? This is not personal to Stu P, there may be others who are in this position because of the unique position of receiving a Govt subsidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) Stu, you lost your staff job long before you announced your intention to stand for the Keys. Having a freelance connection to MR still gives you some 'Skin'? Are you still working on MR? Does that, in view of the subsidy, sit well with your Govt duties??? Edited December 17, 2021 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 (edited) Can I just put my two pennorth in? I find myself retuning the radio dial quite a lot in the day. Starting “Today”on Radio 4 switching to Manx Radio at 8 or 9 o’clock to catch up with the Manx News. Used to enjoy “where’s Hartley hiding.” This mind the gap competition thing is awful 10:30 off to Radio Two for Popmaster, then back to MR for Mannin line at 12. I think Wint does an OK job with that. He could perhaps be more opinionated but look where that got Stu Peters. That afternoon show with the limericks etc awful. Same with that horse racing thing on a Friday. Saturday morning the Oldies Show with the 60s music is good if we didn’t have the train nonsense and the double entendres with Doris the tea lady, or whatever her name is. Mark Tiley (Tidy?) on a Sunday morning playing tracks by dead people is informative. I like that. Then 3pm on Sunday back to Radio two for Sounds of the Seventies with Johnnie Walker. V Good. As for Energy and 3 fm can’t stand them but I’m sure I am not their target audience. Anyway no doubt there is some marketing type person employed by MR to search social media for this sort of feedback so have it on me. Edited December 17, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Ramseyboi said: Radio needs to adapt and embrace social media etc but they seem to be doing that and managing quite well. Manx Radio aren't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: As for Energy and 3 fm can’t stand them but I’m sure I am not their target audience. And that's absolutely fine. But the other 2 don't cost the taxpayer a penny. So why should your choice of radio? It should be a level playing field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 minute ago, James Blonde said: And that's absolutely fine. But the other 2 don't cost the taxpayer a penny. So why should your choice of radio? It should be a level playing field. See my point above they are not free you pay for them in another way in effect a tax on goods and services to pay the advertising. Unless you of course never shop or buy services from anybody who advertises on the radio and I very much doubt that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: As for Energy and 3 fm can’t stand them but I’m sure I am not their target audience. You are a pensioner then? Manx Radios listener base is dwindling year on year. 15 years and they won’t have any left. They have tried to attract a younger audience but all they do is alienate the oldies. They are dooomed. Dooomed I tell ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, IOM said: See my point above they are not free you pay for them in another way in effect a tax on goods and services to pay the advertising. Unless you of course never shop or buy services from anybody who advertises on the radio and I very much doubt that ! Rubbish. Those businesses would just divert their advertising budget elsewhere. The end user isn’t paying for the two stations that actually run without hundreds of thousands of taxpayer payouts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Just now, IOM said: See my point above they are not free you pay for them in another way in effect a tax on goods and services to pay the advertising. Unless you of course never shop or buy services from anybody who advertises on the radio and I very much doubt that ! And Manx Radio takes directly from the taxpayer AND in effect a tax on goods and services to pay the advertising. Manx Radio should be providing the required news and current affairs as per it's agreement with Government then that should be it. The rest should support itself. There is no way the news room up there costs £1m+ to run when Gef the Mongoose, Paul Moulton, and 3FM/Energy are proving news and current affairs equal to or better than Manx Radio. Big questions need to be asked about the way they're spending public money up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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