Asthehills Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, IOM said: You really do need to check yourself out . I have a lot of books and reading material so I don’t need a local library. But you know what I know a lot of people who value it for any number of reasons and for that reason even though I don’t use it I am very happy to contribute towards its costs . This is just one example of public expenditure there are lots of others that’s how society works ! That is the worst analogy I have ever read. A library is physical and needs to be local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Two-lane said: 2 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Hell, yeah - I’ll take Vanishing Point A cult film with some good music. Possibly not watched by people who also listen to Manx Radio. Oh, very good, very good - witty and everything. Took an hour or two…still, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Asthehills said: That is the worst analogy I have ever read. A library is physical and needs to be local. But it’s not . By your logic it could be replaced by a list of books available on the internet just like your music lists . Don’t get me wrong it’s not an idea I would ever want to entertain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genericUserName Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, IOM said: But it’s not . By your logic it could be replaced by a list of books available on the internet just like your music lists . Don’t get me wrong it’s not an idea I would ever want to entertain. Could the government not just give out Kindle vouchers to the needy? And, seperately, fund warm spaces which also provide community services, wifi etc. So like libraries - but no need for books. Edited December 30, 2022 by genericUserName 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, IOM said: But it’s not . By your logic it could be replaced by a list of books available on the internet just like your music lists . Don’t get me wrong it’s not an idea I would ever want to entertain. If you can’t see that a place where you physically go to collect an actual book needs to be local so people can go there, while a noise that comes out of an electronic device to enable you to listen to soul music from a studio that could be anywhere in the world doesn’t, then you aren’t worth engaging with. Give your head a wobble Edited December 30, 2022 by Asthehills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Peters Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, HiVibes said: Yeah it was always the same before they kicked peters out. I wasn’t kicked out, as you know, you illiterate yob. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Asthehills said: Why? If you want to hear soul music in 2022 you just use Spotify, deezer, Apple Music, Amazon music or YouTube music. Why would you limit yourself to having to tune in at a set time? You can stream radio shows too. The advantage of a specialised radio show over streaming is with streaming you are limited to artists you know or recommended by a dodgy algorythm based that's based it sounding a bit like stuff you've played before.* It becomes circular. A good radio show is curated - highlights new artists, gives news about new releases and tours and has interviews. * https://musically.com/2020/11/18/the-mystery-of-pavements-biggest-track-on-streaming-services/ discusses how an Galaxie 500 album track that was never a fan favourite became the bands most listened to track because it was the one closest to "general indie" and Spotify kept recommending it. It was the band's best example of a generic indie track, but not the best example of a Galaxie 500 song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Stu Peters said: I wasn’t kicked out, as you know Silly me, rolled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asthehills Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, Declan said: You can stream radio shows too. The advantage of a specialised radio show over streaming is with streaming you are limited to artists you know or recommended by a dodgy algorythm based that's based it sounding a bit like stuff you've played before.* It becomes circular. A good radio show is curated - highlights new artists, gives news about new releases and tours and has interviews. * https://musically.com/2020/11/18/the-mystery-of-pavements-biggest-track-on-streaming-services/ discusses how an Galaxie 500 album track that was never a fan favourite became the bands most listened to track because it was the one closest to "general indie" and Spotify kept recommending it. It was the band's best example of a generic indie track, but not the best example of a Galaxie 500 song. Yes I know, as I said between the post you have quoted and your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, genericUserName said: Libraries and old fashioned radio were once much more important to most people than they are today. I’m not sure that’s true. Yes you can make your own playlist of music you want to listen to. Or even choose to listen to a station playing music of a particular genre. But variety is the spice of life. And if you listen to a local or national radio station the music is punctuated by local and / or international news and other features which most people take an interest in. Yes you can get that news on the internet but it’s not the same as being part of the listening experience. Re libraries. My wife recently bought me a subscription to our local library ( £10 per annum )which gives me access to thousands of books, CD’s DVD’s Audio books etc. You can also use the computers there for internet access. They have physical copies of local and national newspapers which you can read at no extra cost. PK could come and read a copy of the physical Guardian for free. There are also notices of local and Island wide events there. I hadn’t been in a library for decades before that but am now an enthusiastic user. Went in the other day and a librarian was reading a Christmas story to a group of young children. Made me feel quite warm and fuzzy Mock if you like, and many do so. Yes you can listen to music and read books at home and I do but to decry “old fashioned “ radio and libraries as not being so important anymore is to miss the point. “Use it or lose it” should be the mantra here. We would be much the poorer if they were to disappear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Silly me, rolled out? More like stupid you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: More like stupid you. Your keyboard playing up again gramps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, HiVibes said: Your keyboard playing up again gramps? Are you ever going to contribute anything worthwhile to this forum? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Are you ever going to contribute anything worthwhile to this forum? I don't really intend saying something racist, homophobic, sexist, gammony just to appease you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOM Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Asthehills said: If you can’t see that a place where you physically go to collect an actual book needs to be local so people can go there, while a noise that comes out of an electronic device to enable you to listen to soul music from a studio that could be anywhere in the world doesn’t, then you aren’t worth engaging with. Give your head a wobble You are the one who seems to fail to understand the concept of public services where you can end up paying for services which you don’t want but others do . That’s the basis of society and it’s exactly how it should be. You don’t like Manx Radio have publically stated you don’t want your taxes spent on it you want Spotify lists etc. instead . Well guess what I don’t it’s as simple as that . You have consistently failed to back up any of your points with any data , have shown total naivety in how news and media work I could go on . Therefore I would respectfully suggest it’s you that’s not worth engaging with but I prefer to be more broad minded and inclusive . 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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