simon Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I suppose the irony of a party that supports the very worst of white, dim-witted, Anglo Saxon values canvassing on an Island that has a strong Celtic heritage is totally lost on them. These people actively target places where there has been a surge in "non Anglo Saxon" faces as a trigger for their own particular brand of misguided bullshit - I seem to remember some local (English) knob trying to drum up support a few years ago in the papers and getting frank and honest feedback on the issues. Personally there is nothing worse than some glamourised football hooligan trying to tell you what is wrong with "Britain" is the immigrants, when what is actually wrong with Britain is pathetic, tattooed, lager drinking, chav scum like them. 1. The BNP doesn't represent 'Anglo Saxon' values however dim - witted. It only represents dim - witted values. 2. Many parts of Britain might have stong Celtic heritage. That would be for historians. Most of us have mixed ancestory. 3. Don't blame the English. Blame stupid or badly educated people - whoever they might be. So lets not get distracted. EDIT: you can buy an IOM flag at the BNP website. £7. buy an IOM flag from the BNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 3. Don't blame the English. Blame stupid or badly educated people - whoever they might be. So lets not get distracted. "British" nationalists? Well I imagine their sign up rate in Scotland, Ireland and Wales is pretty shit so don't give me all that "don't blame the English" rubbish? These people are both English and stupid you can't ignore that fact. Bet the lad posting the leaflets even turned up in a 15 year old Ford Escort with four England flags stuck to it because that, I am afraid, is your average BNP supporter no matter what that David Brent clone Nick Griffin says to the contrary. Its a party for ignorant, English, morons. Pure and simple, and it has absolutely no place in the Isle of Man or anywhere else in "Britain" for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Reznor Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 the guy supporting these lot before was a 70 yr old part time accountant. Clearly they got nowhere before but he's probably the one behind it all, do a search on the iomonline website and his name will be there. anyway, all the violence over here is due to white folk anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 who is bankrolling this adventurism ?? it must be costing quite a few quid to bring over the entourage and print leaflets etc ...didn't we discuss UKIP/BNP on a thread some time ago?? has MR / the media asked Dick Horsnall from UKIP what his views on the BNP are??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 the guy supporting these lot before was a 70 yr old part time accountant. Clearly they got nowhere before but he's probably the one behind it all, do a search on the iomonline website and his name will be there. anyway, all the violence over here is due to white folk anyway! His name was Peter Dawson and I seem to remember he went very quiet very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 3. Don't blame the English. Blame stupid or badly educated people - whoever they might be. So lets not get distracted. "British" nationalists? Well I imagine their sign up rate in Scotland, Ireland and Wales is pretty shit so don't give me all that "don't blame the English" rubbish? These people are both English and stupid you can't ignore that fact. Bet the lad posting the leaflets even turned up in a 15 year old Ford Escort with four England flags stuck to it because that, I am afraid, is your average BNP supporter no matter what that David Brent clone Nick Griffin says to the contrary. Its a party for ignorant, English, morons. Pure and simple, and it has absolutely no place in the Isle of Man or anywhere else in "Britain" for that matter. I'm seriously saying lets not get distracted. The people who don't have any sympathy for the BNP need to present a common front - without allowing this to turn into some IOM anti English thing. If the people who aren't sympathetic to the BNP argue with each other (even on some internet forum) then the BNP has won a little victory - by dividing opposition to it. For the record - the BNP has some support in Scotland, Wales and the north of Ireland. Scotland and the north of Ireland are probably more sectarian than England. And the BNP holds 'retreats' in Wales IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Reznor Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 the guy supporting these lot before was a 70 yr old part time accountant. Clearly they got nowhere before but he's probably the one behind it all, do a search on the iomonline website and his name will be there. anyway, all the violence over here is due to white folk anyway! His name was Peter Dawson and I seem to remember he went very quiet very quickly. that was it. Horsnell is a pr!ck anyway, his views are not exactly balanced, I've read his website, so there's a possibility that he could have something to do with this, he's worth a few bob too, obnoxious w@nker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 I'm seriously saying lets not get distracted. The people who don't have any sympathy for the BNP need to present a common front - without allowing this to turn into some IOM anti English thing. If the people who aren't sympathetic to the BNP argue with each other (even on some internet forum) then the BNP has won a little victory - by dividing opposition to it. For the record - the BNP has some support in Scotland, Wales and the north of Ireland. Scotland and the north of Ireland are probably more sectarian than England. And the BNP holds 'retreats' in Wales IIRC. I agree - but these people are by and large claiming to represent "British values" which are in fact all the puke-drenched, flag-of-St George-in-the-window, smack-in-the-mouth-if-you-disagree things that are wrong with Britain. Its up to the English to disown them, not the Manx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxchatterbox Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 if the IOM media were worth anything then they would be camped outside these peoples houses - but then again they are only reporters - so perhaps my e-mails to the UK press will bring over some intelligent genuine journalists who can expose these bigots for what they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 3. Don't blame the English. Blame stupid or badly educated people - whoever they might be. So lets not get distracted. "British" nationalists? Well I imagine their sign up rate in Scotland, Ireland and Wales is pretty shit so don't give me all that "don't blame the English" rubbish? These people are both English and stupid you can't ignore that fact. Bet the lad posting the leaflets even turned up in a 15 year old Ford Escort with four England flags stuck to it because that, I am afraid, is your average BNP supporter no matter what that David Brent clone Nick Griffin says to the contrary. Its a party for ignorant, English, morons. Pure and simple, and it has absolutely no place in the Isle of Man or anywhere else in "Britain" for that matter. If you are critical of the BNP for being racist, what are your comments regarding the English all about? Isn't that racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 if the IOM media were worth anything then they would be camped outside these peoples houses - but then again they are only reporters - so perhaps my e-mails to the UK press will bring over some intelligent genuine journalists who can expose these bigots for what they are... Don't bother all they do is wheel out Nick Griffin as the "voice of reason" to gloss it over. He's the "intelligent" face of the BNP. It a shame really at least the Blackshirts had Oswald Mosley who was educated, imposing, and a strong natural leader whilst the BNP just have a some painful short-arsed David Brent look alike in a cheap suit, although I suppose if your a cab driver from Chelmsford that might count as inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboy Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 If you are critical of the BNP for being racist, what are your comments regarding the English all about? Isn't that racist! No. They claim to represent English and "British" values not me. So on that basis what other description could you give them? Indian? Vietnamise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 If you are critical of the BNP for being racist, what are your comments regarding the English all about? Isn't that racist! No. They claim to represent English and "British" values not me. So on that basis what other description could you give them? Indian? Vietnamise? Your reply doesn't make sense - I wasn't referring to the claims made by the BNP but your attitude towards the English sounds exactly the same as that stated by the BNP about blacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 It a shame really at least the Blackshirts had Oswald Mosley who was educated, imposing, and a strong natural leader whilst the BNP just have a some painful short-arsed David Brent look alike in a cheap suit, although I suppose if your a cab driver from Chelmsford that might count as inspiring. Nick Griffin is bright and educated - however much one disagrees with his point of view. The BNP leader who has been visiting the IOM, holds a degree in law from Cambridge University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 If you are critical of the BNP for being racist, what are your comments regarding the English all about? Isn't that racist! No. They claim to represent English and "British" values not me. So on that basis what other description could you give them? Indian? Vietnamise? Your reply doesn't make sense - I wasn't referring to the claims made by the BNP but your attitude towards the English sounds exactly the same as that stated by the BNP about blacks Lets not get distracted by allowing one poster to disrupt this by turning it into an anti English thing. Dividing horror and opposition to them (edit:the BNP)is exactly what they'd want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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