gd0nfn Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Microsoft MSN has just upgraded its software and called it "Windows live Messenger"; it has linked up with a US company called Verizon to provide VOIP phone call facilities. I have been trying this out as an alternative to Skype and found some technical problems. I contacted Verizon customer services and completed their support questionnaire. They came back with "Thank you for contacting Verizon Web Calling Customer Service. We thank you for the information that you have provided, but we still require some more information. Any assistance that you could provide us would be greatly appreciated. I was looking at Isle of Man, and found that it is not the name of a country . Could you please provide us with the following information: - Country you are calling from - City and country for subscription - Connection type (cable/dsl/dail-up) Verizon Web Calling is committed to ensuring you make the most of your service. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please log into Online Account Manager and contact us by e-mail or chat. Sincerely, Binder Verizon Web Calling Customer Service" So there we are its official the Isle of Man is not a country! I have sent them some useful educational web pages. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 The Isle of Man has only recently been added to the ISO list of country codes (3166) and as such is not present on many outdated lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think this page might be helpful! United Kingdom Department for Constitutional Affairs To have an official United Kingdom government website categorically saying: Departments and agencies are asked not to state or imply that the Islands are part of the United Kingdom (or of Great Britain or of England) or act on that assumption; They are internally self-governing "Dependencies" of the Crown included in the term "British Islands". The Islands are not part of the United Kingdom and have no representation in Parliament at Westminster. The European Union: The Channel Islands and Isle of Man are not Member States nor are they part of the UK Member State. The Islands are internally self-supporting and neither receive subsidies from, nor pay contributions to, the United Kingdom. The Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey make annual contributions towards the cost of common services such as defence and overseas representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Well done DoCA! Funny how confused this matter is even with people who are closely involved with the status of any particular bit of the old Empire, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 From Wiki - British Isles: Terminology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholmondley-Warner Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 From Wiki - British Isles: Terminology This stylised summary of the British Isles/Uk is wrong - it is showing Ireland/Eire as being part of both when it is in fact only part of the British Isles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 It shows North and South as part of the British Isles, but only North as part of the UK. Isn't that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringwraith Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 British Isles is a geographic term and should include the CI and Ireland (N&S) so the graphic is wrong. I think however that the term is often objected to especially in Ireland, presumably due to the use of the word 'British'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 So the channel islands circle should be in the same place as the iom, outside of the other circles but in the british isles circle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The Channel Islands are just off the coast of France, so geographically aren't part of the British Isles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 British Isles is a geographic term and should include the CI and Ireland (N&S) so the graphic is wrong. I've seen sources that say that the CI aren't part of the British Isles and I'd tend to agree with them Assuming the defenition is "an archipelago off the northwest coast of continental Europe which is most commonly known as the British Isles" then I would argue that the CI don't form part of that archipelago as they are islands off the coast of France Edit to add - I'd agree with Mr Bastard, he beat me to it Further edit - Wiki says The following islands are sometimes also included, though officially are not geographically part of the archipelago: * Channel Islands[2] * Faroe Islands * Rockall[3] I'd still say that the CI shouldn't be included in the British Isles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringwraith Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Don't believe everything you read on Wiki. Although not always included under British Isles the CI often are and I consider them to be, unless proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Nope, you're letting your jingoism confuse you between Government and Geography. Unless you dig them up and replant them off the Kent Coast, they're nowhere near the British Isles. They're just off the French coast ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringwraith Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I know where they are thanks, but they are still part of the British Isles, nice picture btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Don't believe everything you read on Wiki. I don't, but it's often a good start Although not always included under British Isles the CI often are and I consider them to be, unless proven otherwise. Physically they are just off the French coast. If there weren't any colours or countries marked on a map there's no way you'd group them with the UK and Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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