Ripsaw Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Heron and Brearley says the cost of Sky Sports - which stands at more than £5,000 per pub, per year - is no longer 'commercially viable'. Manx Radio News Bring back 5's 'n' 3's I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbones Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Yip, they we're telling me this at the beginning of the season. It's an extortionate amount for a smaller pub to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 You can see the actual pricing here: http://business.sky.com/pubs_packages.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted August 16, 2006 Author Share Posted August 16, 2006 Didn't H&B stop their managers from screening Turkish (and other) sourced matches a few years ago? Maybe they'll be reinstalling the receivers (not!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lard Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Didn't H&B stop their managers from screening Turkish (and other) sourced matches a few years ago? Maybe they'll be reinstalling the receivers (not!) some of their pubs were using them again last season, the union & the haven were anyway it's deffo a cheaper alternative, but a legal grey area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbones Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Didn't H&B stop their managers from screening Turkish (and other) sourced matches a few years ago? Maybe they'll be reinstalling the receivers (not!) some of their pubs were using them again last season, the union & the haven were anyway it's deffo a cheaper alternative, but a legal grey area There's no grey area. It's illegal and infringes copyright laws to broadcast premier league football on saturday afternoon. (there is an exact time, but I can't remember it) The brewery withdrew them last year after legal advice, but after no prosecution of their rivals in town, they re-installed as you'd get a warning first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcCann Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Anyone know which pubs are affected? If they touch the Bowler or the Manx Arms I will not be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
When Skies Are Grey Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Is it really that hard to claw back £96 a week????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caringwife Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Why dont H&B just shut down all their pubs and be done with it? (sarcastic icon) First stopped paying for live music and now this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadyBrady Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Didn't H&B stop their managers from screening Turkish (and other) sourced matches a few years ago? Maybe they'll be reinstalling the receivers (not!) some of their pubs were using them again last season, the union & the haven were anyway it's deffo a cheaper alternative, but a legal grey area There's no grey area. It's illegal and infringes copyright laws to broadcast premier league football on saturday afternoon. (there is an exact time, but I can't remember it) The brewery withdrew them last year after legal advice, but after no prosecution of their rivals in town, they re-installed as you'd get a warning first. The issue is normally in the UK - essentially the copyright laws say that live premiership matches can't be televised at 3pm because it can affect gate numbers at football grounds. It was more to protect the lower/local divison clubs. This month's issue of Four-Four-Two magazine has an article on this and the FA Premier league state that "football attendances fall when matches are shown on tv, hence the instigation of a 'closed period' that prohibits the screening of Premiership matches between 2:45 and 5:15 on Saturday afternoons. The closed period is to protect attendances across the whole of football. For example, if a Man U games is shown on live tv on a saturday afternoon it affects the attendances at a club like Rochdale." It does state further on that the 'closed period' doesn't apply outside of the UK which then throws up the old chestnut of the iom being in the British Isles but not the UK. The way I see it is if the 'closed period' is to protect gate receipts at lower division clubs, how can iom pubs really affect these gate receipts?? In England I can see the point but not over here !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojomonkey Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 It would be interesting to see H&B's books. Have you seen the price of a pint these days - its surely got to be enough to pay for the footie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studmuffin Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Is it really that hard to claw back £96 a week????? Totally agree - say Stand 58 for example - for a juicy game its conceivable that they will attract an additional 100 punters I know for a biggy I will usually be on about 6/7 pints, basic sums average spend £15 x 100 £1500 on one game. I dont think its that expensive and pulling it will deter people Can understand in tiny pubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurby and behond! Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Anybody know which pubs are keeping Sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc84 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 There's no grey area. It's illegal and infringes copyright laws to broadcast premier league football on saturday afternoon. (there is an exact time, but I can't remember it) The brewery withdrew them last year after legal advice, but after no prosecution of their rivals in town, they re-installed as you'd get a warning first. http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news_de...categoryid=9001 http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news_de...5&categoryid=35 http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/news_de...7&categoryid=35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbones Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 The IOM copyright law is the same as in the UK, H&B got legal advice and were told it was illegal. I'm not saying that they would be prosecuted, but to the letter of the law it's illegal. You think they would take it out for no reason? H&B will be leaving it in the busier football pubs eg the Cat, Strand, Heron etc. Reckon it's worth them keeping it in all the country pubs? Even all their pubs in town compete with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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