FCMR Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 FMCR could always give these poor people jobs as brush hands paying them £7.50 an hour and charging them out at £20 an hour. Geo <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you can get me some to work for 7-50 ph, Ill give them a start, but I would rather get some from the eastern block, at least they know how to work. And to Ans as long as I get my counting right Ill be allright. Is this not a 7-50 an hour job http://www.icq.com/friendship/pages/browse_page_10952.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 but I would rather get some from the eastern block, at least they know how to work. So are you advocating not employing local in labour in favour of employing imigrant workers (most likley without work permits) ? Are you also saying that our local labour force dont know how to work ? Instead of bitching about the poor old finance sector loosing their jobs why dont you be a proactive member of manx society and offer these soon to be out of work office workers a job. Geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 He would but they will insist on going to the pub at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I gather from the news reports that Scottish Life have shut down their Scotland office entirely, and are shedding half in the iom. If they had the IOM jitters, wouldn't they have done that the other way around? Things are bad when there's so many job losses, but I understand this isn't island specific, it's worldwide. Companies merging and dropping staff, life companies shrinking because they can't carry the equities losses of the last few years, automation and outsourcing economies meaning less staff required, increased legislation making finance business expensive stuff like that. On the other hand, I don't think the government is faultless either. They've wasted a lot of money and effort chasing pie in the sky stuff like offshore casinos and movies when they could have been doing more to help long term sustainable industries like engineering. The zero rated company tax thing is bothering me too. I gather the plan is the zero rating shortfall is to be filled by the increased income tax from all the new jobs it'll generate. Seems there'll have to be a big turnaround for that to happen to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 chasing pie in the sky stuff like offshore casinos and movies when they could have been doing more to help long term sustainable industries like engineering. Don't the movies make money ? I thought (maybe I just assumed) that these days (with worldwide multi channel tv ultimately constantly repeating everything + dvd sales) .... nearly all movies and tv series make a return over time. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 They don't appear to. In the budget report the expense figures make a big enough hole to mention (some 46 million quick over 3 years) but no income reported other than 'benefits to tourism'. Most of the companies involved are off island, much of the labour is off island, so the big revenue earners of income tax and vat don't get paid into our coffers as far as I'm aware. I doubt the local extras earn much, and they seem to bring their own accomodation with them and park it on the prom, a service which they don't even pay vehicle tax for! Seems to be something that's costing us rather than paying us. I'm all for economic diversity, just don't see movies and online gambling as long term sustainable industries. See them both as fickle and cost driven industries that'll hop to the next government waving a money hat in the blink of an eye. I'd far rather see government spend on supporting infastructure that will benefit multiple sectors, like better comms, skills/trades, smoother regulations, faster government processes (I'm waiting months for the treasury to act on something, so bloody fustrating), cheaper transport on and off the island, better international profile, etc etc. Bloody last high profile production claimed we were a channel island for gods sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 The trouble with that idea Slim is that it would require a long term view and the politicians are short termers. But also the voters demand immediatly viewable benefits - look at the carping about the teething troubles with Iris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy One Mate Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 I dont think that half treated human waste blocking the road at Glen Helen is a minor teething problem. I call that an Environmental disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 12, 2004 Share Posted September 12, 2004 Yeah, agreed, but it is a short term problem. The benefits of Iris will be long-lasting and this is something that should mean, as I've heard suggested, that they shouldn't have bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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