John Wright Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I don't mind if it's A, B or C. As long as they are good citizens whilst they are here, it's what they want to do, its a free country. They are contributing to our economy, working where we cannot persuade manx people to work, sometimes doing jobs that wouldn't otherwise exist. They pay their taxes and NI. They buy in shops here, even maybe open new ones Welcome If we sent back all the immigrants where do we stop? A. Incomers only, 50% of our population B. Incomers and first generation, 65% C. Incomers and 1st and 2nd generation D. Anyone who does not have a two manx parents and four manx grandparents and what are we going to do when the first peoples in Us, canada, Aus, NZ and even GB deport all manxies of less than three descents back home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spock Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 surveillance of your environs indicates that perhaps the title of this thread should now read:- "the Polish food shop has closed, does anyone know why?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Birdie says another retailer undercut their prices, waited until they closed and has now increased prices again. That's not from the Peel grapevine, though, so it's not 95% sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Robinsons started selling Polish stuff I noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Robinsons started selling Polish stuff I noticed. And Tesco I bought some pickles from the Polish shop and they were excellent, sorry to hear they have shut Don't see the problem with a Polish Priest, unless he's like the Polish nun who used to terrify me at the convent school on Finch Road when I was little Sister Mary Stanilslaus she was called, still sends a shiver down my spine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyorhythm Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Polish shop! there is nothing wrong with brasso I'l stick to what I know thanks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Is that the little Polish food shop on Bucks road that's closed? I'm sorry to hear that if so, it was a lovely little shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 It was a lovely little shop in that it was not a supermarket and it sold stuff you couldn't get in a supermarket Unfortunately it only sold stuff that a supermarket, or any other retailer could buy in bulk and sell cheaper, which they did If you want to succeed as a deli you have to make your own stuff, things like sourdough bread, homemade pies, charcouterie, obscure cheeses, home smoked stuff etc. If you just buy stuff in jars & tins then the big boys will squeeze you out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 My local Polish shop (combined with Chinese as run by a Chinese/Polish couple) is very well patronised but he really gets the customers in regularly(queues on Sat afternoons) by stocking Polish bread from the Polish Bakery in London + some cakes (my usual was the Poppy seed rolls) - the customers then come in regularly and also stock up on the soups + other ingredients. The Bucks rd shop unfortuneately did not stock such staple items thus I suspect didn't gain a regular flow of customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 It was a lovely little shop in that it was not a supermarket and it sold stuff you couldn't get in a supermarket There are plenty of little shops and delis that aren't nice places; the one on Bucks road was because the staff were always friendly, the atmosphere was pleasant, and the stock was varied and well chosen - nothing to do with it not being a supermarket. I'm not trying to make a case for "little shops" vs. supermarkets, I just think it's a pity the Polish food shop closed because I liked it. If you want to succeed as a deli you have to make your own stuff, things like sourdough bread, homemade pies, charcouterie, obscure cheeses, home smoked stuff etc. If you just buy stuff in jars & tins then the big boys will squeeze you out There are plenty of Oriental stores and the like up and down the U.K. that sell nothing but stuff in jars and tins of stuff that's been imported, all of which could just as easily be bought up by bigger food retailers and supermarkets. Within five minutes of where I live there is a South East Asian shop, a Polish shop, and an Indian shop, none of which produce their own stuff, but which manage to do business despite the presence of big supermarkets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Different market though Vinnie. The Chinese retail (and wholesale) market is pretty well cornered by Wing Yip. The market in the UK is large enough to have specialist supermarkets (and indeed corner shops) catering for ethnic cuisines. Here, we don't have the size of ethnic cusine demand which would make it tricky for a small shop to survive in direct competition with the supermarkets. Cheeky Boy has a point, if they provided sonething that the supermarkets here couldn't then it would have survived as it would have broadened its market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Here, we don't have the size of ethnic cusine demand which would make it tricky for a small shop to survive in direct competition with the supermarkets. Cheeky Boy has a point, if they provided sonething that the supermarkets here couldn't then it would have survived as it would have broadened its market. I don't doubt it for a second, but that ignores the costs and effort involved in sourcing and offering specialties. You say yourself that the demand for ethnic cuisine on the Isle of Man is limited, so it's hardly a certainty that going to the trouble of specializing would have saved the shop and broadened its market to any meaningful degree. It may simply have been that the Island simply isn't in a position to support such a shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaipyr Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 It would be much nicer if they chose to adapt to Manx culture for the duration of their stay. Isnt Manx Culture an oxymoron! No, you're just a moron. Manx culture is alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken adams Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Here, we don't have the size of ethnic cusine demand which would make it tricky for a small shop to survive in direct competition with the supermarkets. Cheeky Boy has a point, if they provided sonething that the supermarkets here couldn't then it would have survived as it would have broadened its market. I don't doubt it for a second, but that ignores the costs and effort involved in sourcing and offering specialties. You say yourself that the demand for ethnic cuisine on the Isle of Man is limited, so it's hardly a certainty that going to the trouble of specializing would have saved the shop and broadened its market to any meaningful degree. It may simply have been that the Island simply isn't in a position to support such a shop. it is difficult to specialise over here as the costs initially, in sypplying products either noone else is, or to a niche market, are high. but the polish community now amounts to over 10% of the island population(so i am led to believe), so numbers are there, add to that other customers from the indigenous pop, and there should be enough; maybe they werent offering what people wanted. i lived in eastern europe for a number of years and really enjoyed the cuisine, cooked by locals, both at home and in eateries. i popped into the shop on bucks road, and it seemed to me to have the eastern european variants of western european products;ie (what the poles get to buy at home, a lot of packet sauces and tinned equivalenyts of branded foods! dont forget, eastern europeans are terribly jealous of succes of their own,(as told to me, and i experienced first hand), so probaby friends of the owners etc were the patrons: the saying they have is' if one piece of corn grows higher than the rest, it will soon be cut down', well something like that after translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 the polish community now amounts to over 10% of the island population(so i am led to believe) I don't believe that is the case. That would be 8,000 poles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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