Skig Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 When C&W and Cloud9 get going, will anyone switching from MT be able to take their existing number with them? Who owns the 07624 3xxxxx and 4xxxxx numbers. Is it MT or the communications commission? See here 07624 Numbers http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbe...nistered/s7.xls 7624 0 Manx Telecom 7624 1 Manx Telecom 7624 2 Cable and Wireless Isle of Man Limited 7624 3 Manx Telecom 7624 4 Manx Telecom 7624 5 Manx Telecom 7624 6 Manx Telecom 7624 7 Manx Telecom 7624 8 Manx Telecom 7624 9 Manx Telecom Thanks Concrete. Wonder why MT have been allocated 900,000 potential mobile numbers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 When C&W and Cloud9 get going, will anyone switching from MT be able to take their existing number with them? Who owns the 07624 3xxxxx and 4xxxxx numbers. Is it MT or the communications commission? See here http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbe...red/sabcde2.xls 01624 Numbers... 1624 60 Manx Telecom 1624 61 Manx Telecom 1624 62 Manx Telecom 1624 63 Manx Telecom 1624 64 Manx Telecom 1624 65 Manx Telecom 1624 66 Manx Telecom 1624 67 Manx Telecom 1624 68 Manx Telecom 1624 69 Manx Telecom 1624 70 Free 1624 71 Manx Telecom 1624 72 Manx Telecom 1624 73 Free 1624 74 Free 1624 75 Free 1624 76 Free 1624 77 Free 1624 78 Free 1624 79 Free 1624 80 Manx Telecom 1624 81 Manx Telecom 1624 82 Manx Telecom 1624 83 Manx Telecom 1624 84 Manx Telecom 1624 85 Manx Telecom 1624 86 Manx Telecom 1624 87 Manx Telecom 1624 88 Manx Telecom 1624 89 Manx Telecom 07624 Numbers http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbe...nistered/s7.xls 7624 0 Manx Telecom 7624 1 Manx Telecom 7624 2 Cable and Wireless Isle of Man Limited 7624 3 Manx Telecom 7624 4 Manx Telecom 7624 5 Manx Telecom 7624 6 Manx Telecom 7624 7 Manx Telecom 7624 8 Manx Telecom 7624 9 Manx Telecom Porting of numbers is done between all UK mobile operators. I would bet that MT drag their feet on this one though, as it is not to their advantage. It should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyconcrete Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Porting of numbers is done between all UK mobile operators. I would bet that MT drag their feet on this one though, as it is not to their advantage. It should be interesting. Does number portability exist in any form on the Island? The issue I guess is whether it is technically possible and whether MT are obliged to or not. That spreadsheet is an Ofcom one, but I believe the responsibility rests locally with the comms commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Porting of numbers is done between all UK mobile operators. I would bet that MT drag their feet on this one though, as it is not to their advantage. It should be interesting. Does number portability exist in any form on the Island? The issue I guess is whether it is technically possible and whether MT are obliged to or not. That spreadsheet is an Ofcom one, but I believe the responsibility rests locally with the comms commission. I guess it has never been required before. It is technically possible, although again MT could use this as their excuse, no doubt Cloud9 will offer them assistance having done it before. I know that UK operators are obliged, but who is responsible in IoM I am not sure? I think we will see quite a reduction from MT rates, especially in multiple mobile contract discounts, and international roaming. I have repeatedly requested this from MT, without any success. I see their new rates now include discount for multiple accounts, but I think too little too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skig Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Porting of numbers is done between all UK mobile operators. I would bet that MT drag their feet on this one though, as it is not to their advantage. It should be interesting. Does number portability exist in any form on the Island? The issue I guess is whether it is technically possible and whether MT are obliged to or not. That spreadsheet is an Ofcom one, but I believe the responsibility rests locally with the comms commission. The island only has 2 main telephone exchanges, both in Douglas, and all 10 "out of town" exchanges are satellites from them. Number portability of landline numbers has always been possible since the island went fully digital in the early 1990's, but MT never tell you that. There is no reason why, for example, if you move from Ramsey (81xxxx) to Sulby (89xxxx) you should be able to take your number with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyconcrete Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 see their new rates now include discount for multiple accounts, but I think too little too late. My guess is MT gradually reduce the tariffs and offer new deals/bundles with time. They have the advantage over all the other companies given their fixed line customer base, mast coverage, local staff and knowledge of the local market. I get the impression C&W are going to pose the largest threat, I'm still not sure about Cloud9 though. The competition is just kicking MT into gear. The island only has 2 main telephone exchanges, both in Douglas, and all 10 "out of town" exchanges are satellites from them. Number portability of landline numbers has always been possible since the island went fully digital in the early 1990's, but MT never tell you that. There is no reason why, for example, if you move from Ramsey (81xxxx) to Sulby (89xxxx) you should be able to take your number with you. I was always under the impression it was a technical limitation. I can't really comment on whether it's true or not as I don't know the in's and out's of how MT route their voice traffic around. I would guess they just route the numbers in blocks of 10,000 to the exchange in question. In a way, everything is technically possible - but their operating practices, staff and current setup may not be suitable to do such a thing. I am sure this will change when their Lucent/NGN stuff is rolled out. I must admit, I like the fact numbers are tied to different parts of the Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It is a technical limitation of the current system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazman Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 It is a technical limitation of the current system. The current digital phone system is over 15 years old and totally unsupported by Ericcson (Or anyone else) - perhaps MT just dont know how to do it and no-one will tell them otherwise.... MT have never really been inovators - They just buy in the next big thing and do as they're told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyconcrete Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 A company called Callagenix now has 01624 74xxxx according to the Ofcom Spreadsheet; http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbe...red/sabcde2.xls Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 A company called Callagenix now has 01624 74xxxx according to the Ofcom Spreadsheet; http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbe...red/sabcde2.xls Any ideas? Perhaps just for offering an inbound manx area code for their VoIP solutions? Would seem to fit in with some of their present stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith lard Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 anyone else had the cloud9 brochure in the post? seems promising, it says in it MT have to transfer your existing number if you request it. Their "magic numbers" thing looks good too www.cloud9.im Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yep - await the tariffs before passing judgement but I would think MT must be worried about seeing their mobile sales implode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fella Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 http://www.gov.im/lib/news/communications/...andfixedwi1.xml I see we now have another wireless licence up for grabs, would be interesting if either Cloud9 or C&W took this up as well and offered mobile & Wireless access... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 anyone else had the cloud9 brochure in the post? seems promising, it says in it MT have to transfer your existing number if you request it. Their "magic numbers" thing looks good too www.cloud9.im Yes, got one in the post today its good news that you can retain your old number if you choose to move. Not to sure about the magic numbers thing as it only applies to other cloud 9 subscribers and is subject to their "fair use policy" whatever that means, same thing applies to the half price calls for a year it only applies to people on there network which I'm guessing is no one at the moment! I cant see a single price in there entire brochure just some thing called tariff match so I guess that means they'll be the same price as MT, I understand its a pre launch thing but it would have been nice to see some examples of there tarrifs, monthly costs, no. of free txts, mins and price of handsets etc. Personaly I think I'll be sticking with MT for another year at least as my contract is due for renual and I need a new phone. I know there expensive (I get a bill every month!) but credit were its due I've never had any problems with their network and were ever I've been in the world with a mobile network my phone has always worked without a problem, I'd rather wait and let the new co's iron out any teething troubles, and hear some feed back before making a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Ten Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Can the brochure be scanned for us all to see? ? I am lead to believe that Cloud 9 and C&W have been given permission to use all of the IOM Government communications masts that are sited all around the Island, this should be a really big help to them (and us Joe Public) in mobile phone coverage terms. MT must be crapping themselves about this competition Last 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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