Roger Smelly Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Here is a bit of reading matter for you. The US of A is guilty of pouring petrol on the fire. Light the blue touch paper and stand well back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Should I just splash out with all my savings and really enjoy this Christmas? North Korea says UN sanctions imposed after its nuclear bomb test are a declaration of war, state media says. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6057718.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Here is a bit of reading matter for you. The US of A is guilty of pouring petrol on the fire. Light the blue touch paper and stand well back. scraping the archives a bit eh ? 2002 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Should I just splash out with all my savings and really enjoy this Christmas? If you were planning on digging a nuke shelter underground tourist accommodation, I'm sure the DTI would give you a grant or two.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 scraping the archives a bit eh ? 2002 ! Well i have always found that history teaches us the best lessons. Also if you understand anything about the world we live in, i find that tracing the actions of people or countries over a 10 to 20 year period you tend to be able to join the dots. Life is a lesson learn it well. Nanoo Nanoo !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 After it all going quiet for a bit after sanctions were approved by the UN it looks like things are hotting up again: BBC Link North Korea has warned South Korea that its participation in the UN sanctions against Pyongyang would be seen as a serious provocation. A spokesman for the country's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification warned it would lead to a "crisis of war". More brinkmanship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovenotfear Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 After it all going quiet for a bit after sanctions were approved by the UN it looks like things are hotting up again: BBC Link North Korea has warned South Korea that its participation in the UN sanctions against Pyongyang would be seen as a serious provocation. A spokesman for the country's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification warned it would lead to a "crisis of war". More brinkmanship? As I stated before!! Were did they get their nuclear capability? http://truthout.org/docs_02/022303B.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted October 25, 2006 Author Share Posted October 25, 2006 After it all going quiet for a bit after sanctions were approved by the UN it looks like things are hotting up again: BBC Link North Korea has warned South Korea that its participation in the UN sanctions against Pyongyang would be seen as a serious provocation. A spokesman for the country's Committee for the Peaceful Reunification warned it would lead to a "crisis of war". More brinkmanship? As I stated before!! Were did they get their nuclear capability? http://truthout.org/docs_02/022303B.htm As I stated before!! You are talking crap. This project totally collapsed after only the foundations were laid. No nuclear equipment was installed. Check out the Federation of American Scientists review of North Korea's nuclear history HERE. This is a non partisan and highly respected organization which is highly involved in non proliferation issues. North Korea's nuclear technology was supplied from Russia starting in the 1960s and 70s. To also see a detailed breakdown of the Framework agreement negotiated by the US which agreed to provide the light water reactors check out HERE. In this US Government report (must be false information of course) it lays out the contracts negotiated etc. Check out here for ABB's announcement about the contract. What you should notice is that the equipment supplied is STEAM SIDE and hence is not reactor related. This whole issue is just so much bull. The framework agreement was specifically negotiated to get north korea to abandon its military program for a civillian program. It was negotiated by Clinton in the face of opposition by neo-cons. The project never got off the ground and totally collapsed in 2002. To say that Rumsfelt supplied North Korea's nuclear weapon technology from this agreement is like saying Hitler saved Europe from war when he negotiated the take over of Cechoslovakia ... its a total distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 A slightly different headline on the same topic: Nuclear test inflates Korean condom sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 A slightly different headline on the same topic: Nuclear test inflates Korean condom sales Never mind all that international rubbish. What are you going to do about the MEA, immigration and the pothole outside my mums house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Never mind all that international rubbish. What are you going to do about the MEA, immigration and the pothole outside my mums house? Is this your home page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share Posted October 31, 2006 Well, has a hard line, and some persuasive negotiations by the Chinese, got things back on track? One issue though is whether the Japanese attitude will cause difficulties. Its a complex process! For the Bushwakers out their ... note his thanks to the Chinese. BBC News Link Six-party talks on North Korea's nuclear programme are to due resume soon after a diplomatic breakthrough. Agreement came at an informal meeting in Beijing between North Korea, China and the US. China's foreign ministry said on its website that envoys from China, the US and North Korea had met on Tuesday and "had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on continuing efforts to advance the process of the six-party talks". All three agreed the talks "be held soon at a time convenient to the six parties". North Korea had set no conditions for its return to the talks. President George W Bush hailed the agreement. "I am pleased and I want to thank the Chinese," he told reporters at the White House. But Japan has reportedly said it cannot accept North Korea's return to the talks unless the regime first renounces its nuclear weapons. Foreign Minister Taro Aso was quoted as saying that while Japan welcomed the prospect of a new round of talks, it "does not intend to accept North Korea's return to the talks on the premise that it possess nuclear weapons". Public broadcaster NHK said he insisted that a resumption of talks "is conditional on North Korea not possessing nuclear weapons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Well, has a hard line, and some persuasive negotiations by the Chinese, got things back on track? One issue though is whether the Japanese attitude will cause difficulties. Its a complex process! For the Bushwakers out their ... note his thanks to the Chinese. BBC News Link Six-party talks on North Korea's nuclear programme are to due resume soon after a diplomatic breakthrough. Agreement came at an informal meeting in Beijing between North Korea, China and the US. China's foreign ministry said on its website that envoys from China, the US and North Korea had met on Tuesday and "had a candid and in-depth exchange of views on continuing efforts to advance the process of the six-party talks". All three agreed the talks "be held soon at a time convenient to the six parties". North Korea had set no conditions for its return to the talks. President George W Bush hailed the agreement. "I am pleased and I want to thank the Chinese," he told reporters at the White House. But Japan has reportedly said it cannot accept North Korea's return to the talks unless the regime first renounces its nuclear weapons. Foreign Minister Taro Aso was quoted as saying that while Japan welcomed the prospect of a new round of talks, it "does not intend to accept North Korea's return to the talks on the premise that it possess nuclear weapons". Public broadcaster NHK said he insisted that a resumption of talks "is conditional on North Korea not possessing nuclear weapons". This is not 'Bush wacking'. IMHO, the US effectively provoked N Korea to carry out this test, with continued 'threats' of direct action and nothing but unhelpful rhetoric and sabre rattling since 2002. They are also on the wrong path with sanctions, which will do nothing other than isolate N Korea at the expense of it's people, and acelerate the development of nuclear weapons as paranoia is rife in the N Korea administration. Only China can resolve this situation, by putting far more greater pressure on N Korea (and if China realises it) giving China it's first great opportunity to demonstrate it's committment to internationalism and globalisation as a global superpower. Hopefully. Plus there's a US midterm election next week. The yanks are best advised leaving things in other peoples control this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 When it all boils down to it I don't think it worth pondering over the frightening prospects of nuclear armageddon. These nuclear displays are obviously little more in the short-term than grandiose displays to America that North Korea has a bargaining chip. Such a chip most likely will be used to ensure they obtain much greater aid from America as they most definitely need it given that a good deal of the population are malnourished. I don't think it is so much the propect of using nuclear weapons that is bothering China and the United States but how power politics changes now that N.Korea has a nuclear capability. N.Korea doesn't have any close allies so it alone on this one. The Chinese are incensed and have began a land blockade of the border and the Americans are looking into the feasibility of a sea blockade, if required. North Korea isn't such a great threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think it's better to resurrect this thread rather than start a new one. LINK TO STORY North Korea agreed today to take first steps toward nuclear disarmament and shut down its main reactor within 60 days before eventually dismantling its atomic weapons programme. Under the deal, the North will receive initial aid equal to 50,000 tons of heavy fuel oil for shutting down and sealing its main nuclear reactor and related facilities at Yongbyon, north of the capital, to be confirmed by international inspectors. For irreversibly disabling the reactor and declaring all nuclear programmes, the North will eventually receive another 950,000 tons in aid. The agreement was read to all delegates in a conference room at a Chinese state guesthouse and Chinese envoy Wu Dawei asked if there were any objections. When none were made, the officials all stood and applauded. Under the agreement, North Korea and United States will also embark on talks aimed at resolving disputes and restarting diplomatic relations, Wu said. The Korean peninsula has remained in a state of war for more than a half-century since the Korean War ended in a 1953 cease-fire. If Pyongyang goes through with its promises, they would be the first moves the communist nation has made to scale back its atomic development after more than three years of six-nation negotiations marked by delays, deadlock and the North's first nuclear test explosion in October. Making sure that Pyongyang declares all its nuclear facilities and shuts them down is likely to prove arduous, nuclear experts have said. It may, I suppose, ultimately prove to be less than the 'real deal,' but at least it is a very big step in the right direction. The only problem, of course, is that it seems to remove one contentious issue from the path of GWB - leaving him with even more opportunity to deal with Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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