batman Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Heres another poll, i am interested to see what you think about this one. Remember the old saying united we stand. Thats my opinion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 I voted for the last option. I think it should be up to the Scottish people as to what their future is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilDDog Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 If Scotland got its Independance, would it supply it's own army for security or would it hire one in from somewhere? I think if it were to get Independance it would be no different from the Isle Of Man, lots of people thinking there in a position of power sitting around a table talking absolute bollox., but to make any sort of major decision they would have to ask the United Kingdoms permission. Just like the Isle Of Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 but to make any sort of major decision they would have to ask the United Kingdoms permission. I guess that depends on whether or not they choose to stay loyal to the crown or, to elect for total independence and have a president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC-Drift.com Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Does Scottish independance mean no English MP's allowed? If so, then half of Tonys' Cronies can sod off back up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilDDog Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 guess that depends on whether or not they choose to stay loyal to the crown or, to elect for total independence and have a president. Then they would surely need an army of some description. I doubt they could be bothered with there own. If they chose to use the British army then they would have to pay for it, probably with there independance. If they chose another countries army It would be the same, they would pay with there independance. I really couldn't see the United Kingdom being happy if another countries army was moved in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Well, they might be able to do some sort of reciprocal deal. I know the RAF were had bases up in Scotland (not sure if they still do). There's a submarine base up there too I believe, although I'm not too sure if any of the army units are based there. I guess there could be a sufficient force permanently based there if they get the opportunity to use the land/territorial waters for training purposes. There are lots of oil and gas fields off the Scottish coast too. I'm sure they'd strike some sort of deal with London to secure their safety and security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Well the Republic of Ireland seem to manage without the British army. And the former Soviet Republics must have found an answer to this question. It would probably be like in a divorce. England would get to keep the RAF, SAS, the Navy, the Marines, and the Paras. Scotland would get the Grenadier Guards and the Celine Dion cds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallybug Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 It would probably be like in a divorce. England would get to keep the RAF, SAS, the Navy, the Marines, and the Paras. Scotland would get the Grenadier Guards and the Celine Dion cds. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd imagine the Scots would get the Scots Guards rather than the Grenadiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kewnet Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Even if the Scots got independance from British govern, it's most likely that the defence (as is the case here) is provided by HM Armed Forces. The airspace around Scotland is certainly under UK control albeit defined as the Scottish FIR (Flight Information Region) and I would imagine the the waters around the place are under similar classification. (To answer a previous question: There are still RAF & RN bases up there ! ) I don't think defence is the thing in question really - the key element is that they want rid of having laws imposed on them by Washington....erm.... Westminster. Can't say I blame in light of recent events either but my vote goes with "up to them" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 I don't think we should split apart. Scotlands strength has always been as part of the UK. Britain has had quite a few Scottish prime ministers, we have never held anything against them, they have always been able to rise up the ranks. Why spilt away?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallybug Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 I don't think defence is the thing in question really - the key element is that they want rid of having laws imposed on them by Washington....erm.... Westminster. Can't say I blame in light of recent events either but my vote goes with "up to them" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They are already more autonomous than other regions of the UK though - notice how many times on the news etc they talk about figures for England & Wales - Scotland has it's own. If Scotland got full independence now, Labour would lose the 55 seats they won at the 2001 general election, against the Tory's 1 and Lib Dems 5, meaning a much reduced majority. Mind you, looking at how the voting went overall by number of voters, the Labour lead over the Tories was only 9% overall - this computes to a 246 seat majority. Shows how the seats are spread, I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Voted - it's up to the Scottish, seems most obvious choice. "Aye Hamish, have ya seen ma new tatoo??? - Free Scotland, awww f*ck we are free, aye'll heeve tee change it" "ooohhh nooo, wheat the fack we ginnee sing aboot noo?, that's 300 years of museec in tha bin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Celine Dion???? Why would the Scotts get to keep her?? - Thought she was Canadian??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doric Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 The English taut them to read and write and eat withnives and forks after all. Maybe one day the isle of Man will get scotland back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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