Observer Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Legal cogs turn notoriously slowly - no-one is in a position to comment on the standard of FCMR's representation until such time as the outcome has been decided. Besides, the other case being adjourned again appears to me to be a stalling tactic, in my humble opinion. A decision against Ned & Co would be very damaging at the moment, even if it wasn't a necessarily bad issue, the reputational cost would be huge. But that is just my own personal view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 It looks like Ned has got the Press in his pocket now, as we can not get the chance to reply to some of the statements Neds making. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You have been given numerous opportunities via e-mail etc to have the opportunity of the right of media reply, off Island if necessary. You always seem to ignore them FCMR. And your lawyer advised you to stop posting on Manxnet Forums. Before they were closed down, in mysterious circumstances, despite what Manx Telecom stated to the press. So please do not blame the press. How about blaming your chicken xxxx advocate. After all you say that has happened, then I am surprised Ned has not been cuffed by now. I think you need a better advocate who will kick ass rather than your wallet pal! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We have the best Advocate on the island, but when the other side keeps applying for extra time to prepare its defence (they have had 12 months) what can he do when the courts grant it. As Ive said before we are paying for ours but whos paying for his, we will never know the truth of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 What is taking so long? Surely, all the arguments you intend to put forward are well known to Ned's team, and really it isn't that complicated a case. They've got to be stalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 They are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 For what it is worth, here is my personal view: Any delay is good news for FCMR. If they were sure of their position it would be in court asap (and in the open). The "statement" that was made was so short of fact and substance it means that either: i) they are keeping their powder dry or ii) it was politically expedient to say something, in fact, anything. However "The lawyers grow fat on the quarrels of fools". You must remember that Ned actually wants to be CM. He thinks that being CM is the best thing one could be. From lowly shopkeeper to Chief Minister a la Thatcher. Wined and dined and courted by decision makers as a man of substance. Of course, it is up to each and every one of us to make up his or her own mind on just how an effective CM he has been. But he should stand or fall on his proven track record on how his being CM has improved the lot of the Manx. His own personal financial standing and any improvements it may have seen whilst CM are not important when you consider the advancements he has made for the ordinary Manx person on The Strand. Not the man but the achievements should be the criteria. Roll on election day. It's enough to make me come back and stay in the land of my birth. Unlike the CM that's Mannin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumlin Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Me feels that the Government want a delay in the Civil,Criminal and standards committee hearings until after the elections next year, that way they can brag that no elected member of Tynwald has done anything wrong, as Ned is not going to stand for re election next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 YYaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Threads clearly marked geo, if you don't find the subject interesting, feck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doric Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 I know it may not be the place to say it and knowing me th ewrong probably time, but this topic has had over 6,000 readsor hits is it? Even with a trafic of 218 or so replies, that is pretty good. A lot of people must then be interested in this topic who aren't posting I would say. I reckon normally as a rule of thumb, 20x the number of replies is the usual sort of ratio is quite good. I know i'm not best at writing but not too bad at figures and trainspotting type of stuff. Good work. Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy One Mate Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Ive recently been a bit dissapointed with the lack of conspiracy theories from FCMR so I thought I would make one up myself. The Police todate have not interviewed the CM or his Wife nor have they interviewed Mr Colin Moore who the CM named as the person making the allegations. So the Police are carrying out an investigation without interviewing the two main parties. Conspiracy theory !!!!!!!! The AG stops the Tynwald Select Commitee from sitting just when they are about to take Public evidence from the Quantity surveyors and Mr Terry Toohey about the Grants at Ballacain by stating that the Police are investigating the CM. Make your own mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumlin Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 I heard that the Builders were due to meet the Police on 3rd November but the meeting has been put off to 17th November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Me feels that the Government want a delay in the Civil,Criminal and standards committee hearings until after the elections next year, that way they can brag that no elected member of Tynwald has done anything wrong, as Ned is not going to stand for re election next year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Judge has given Neds Advocates an extra six weeks to prepare/submit evedence for their defence in the CuPlas Callow court action. This will be heard on December 6 2004 at Douglas High Court. All are welcome as its an open Court. And as for the criminal case you will just have to wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GI James Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 ... the land of my birth. Unlike the CM that's Mannin. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do tell us more, PK. /me feeds out more rope ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Threads clearly marked geo, if you don't find the subject interesting, feck off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Big LOL at Slim It's all gone rather quiet at the moment - you can almost hear the tumbleweed :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstream Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 This will be heard on December 6 2004 at Douglas High Court. All are welcome as its an open Court.And as for the criminal case you will just have to wait and see FCMR, Is that not a fixed Monday court for directions and things like that. It's not the actual case is it? Just thought I'd try and clarify that in case people went along hoping to see some action instead of the relatively mundane procedural stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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