Addie Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Off topic heh, nice smiley addie. Hey, thanks WD. Some good ones on Smily/On topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 eh?? I said IRONY, not IRONING dear Oooo, look at the time... Gotta run for my bus Oh I thought it was another one of your typo's..... I have an iron yes - but only you use it....... Is that the time already?? Catch you later huneeeeey... What's for tea tonight by the way? Kisses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 / Me points to Chat ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumlin Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 IS this Ned on His way to Court No its their wedding picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 /me thinks there's something funny going on between Ripsaw and Observer. Better tell Mrs Ripsaw 'cos she'll be worried (Fretsaw?). Hope there's no kids involved (Junior Hacksaws?) Oh! hang on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Off again It is so very romantic to have a little 'thing' going on on the forums. I can still remember when Mr & Mrs Addie ran for buses and one of us noticed what was for Tea. Now we can't run and have Dinner and it's not half as much fun. Me wipes away a nostalgic tear / Back on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Some time ago, I queried with a friend in the building trade (of the shirt and tie type) about not building to plans and as I understand it (cop out clause alert!) the client submits plans for approval, planning stamp them (eventually) to say okally dokally. The client employs a builder and instructs him on the work that is required. The client may, or may not instruct in accordance with the approved plans, the builder works to the client's instructions, not the plans. Although the builder will has access to the approved plans, he works to the clients instructions. If the client says put a door where the plans show a window then the builder installs a door. It is the client's responsibility to have all work correctly approved, not the builder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Yeah but Ripsaw, nothing will happen, its just pointless discussing it, I get frustraded by it all but there is nothing, anyone, can or will do. So when were there yellow busses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geo Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 It is the client's responsibility to have all work correctly approved, not the builder. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Any competent builder would ensure he had written instruction detailing any change (before carrying out additional works) as this would constitute a change to the works and his original quotation. A cowboy builder or the like would no doubt just do what he was told and take his wedge (or try to take his wedge). Geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack from Laxey Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Ripsaw, good post. The client has responsibility, because er, he is the client. The builder is the builder. The white collars in the Construction Industry on the Island are watching the legal beagles on this one all right!! On a lighter note. I'm glad we mentioned buses because it gives me a chance to show off the cover of Vol 34 No 326 of Buses magazine. (No this is not Have I got News For You). Don't worry, I'll be putting the article on "Buses in Port Erin" on a website. Anorakly yours (buses and Construction Industry) JS from Laxey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripsaw Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Any competent builder would ensure he had written instruction detailing any change (before carrying out additional works) as this would constitute a change to the works and his original quotation. A cowboy builder or the like would no doubt just do what he was told and take his wedge (or try to take his wedge). Maybe the builders were niave to accept the contract on a "gentleman's agreement" and therefore not have a legally binding contract "to change" as the work progressed, but that makes him lacking in the business sense, not lacking competance. The builder, all builders, all tradesmen work to the client's instruction. If the client (who in this case just happens to run the country) asks for a change of design you don't expect them to go legal on the fact that it costs extra to make the changes. The work, including the variations to the plans were passed o a high standard of workmanship, the rooms have been given habbitation certificates (or whatever certificate B&B's receive). Just to simplify it... Do cafes "get it in writting" if you ask for an extra sausage on your plate or do they happily add to the final bill and expect to be paid for it? Forget that sausages cost 50p and developments cost thousands of pounds, the law is the law when it comes to payment for services rended, the value is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Further - a contract does not need to be in a written format for it to be legally binding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Solid Contract once the client submitted the final costs for grant aid and recieved payment of Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addie Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Total paid £240k of which the DTL paid £92k, so the owner has only paid £148k for four new properties I am now getting seriously confused here. Is it 1. 240k paid to the builders by the Department of Tourism & Leisure or the client? 2. 148k paid to the builders by the Department of Tourism & Leisure or the client? 3. 92k paid to the builder by the Department of Tourism & Leisure? 4. 92k paid to the client by the Department of Tourism & Leisure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCMR Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 Total paid £240k of which the DTL paid £92k, so the owner has only paid £148k for four new properties I am now getting seriously confused here. Is it 1. 240k paid to the builders by the Department of Tourism & Leisure or the client? 2. 148k paid to the builders by the Department of Tourism & Leisure or the client? 3. 92k paid to the builder by the Department of Tourism & Leisure? 4. 92k paid to the client by the Department of Tourism & Leisure? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The builder has been paid to date £240k from the client, the client got £92k from DTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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