x-in-man Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nope, just cut and paste the content good chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, woody2 said: paywall stinky knickers.... Here you go Woody. https://www.ft.com/content/62856154-26b1-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0 Quote Half of Britain’s imports of liquefied natural gas so far this year have come from Russia, illustrating how UK households have started sending more money to Moscow after Vladimir Putin made boosting exports of the super-cooled fuel a ppriority. Russia has accounted for three of a total of six LNG shipments that have arrived since early January in the UK, whose tensions with Moscow have risen to the highest level since the Cold War following an alleged Russian nerve gas attack in Salisbury. All three Russian shipments have come from the Yamal LNG project in Siberia that was targeted by US sanctions before its start-up late last year, though shipments themselves are not restricted. Yamal’s opening, which was hailed by Mr Putin as boon for the Russian economy and evidence of its ability to withstand sanctions, has unleashed a wave of Russian LNG, with cargoes destined for the UK and on the US east coast. The UK cargoes have a shone spotlight on the UK’s increasingly import-dependent energy strategy, with declining North Sea output and limited storage in the country. While LNG imports make up only a small portion of UK gas demand, estimated at 3-5 per cent so far in 2018, the total could grow following the shutdown of the country’s main Rough storage site, which has left the country’s gas supplies more vulnerable to price spikes if pipeline outages or particularly cold weather coincide. “We rely fairly heavy on imports of gas to get through the winter,” said Trevor Sikorski, chief gas analyst at Energy Aspects in London. “Having closed down our largest storage facility we face a lot more volatility around prices and potentially higher prices.” Novatek, the company that developed Yamal as part of a consortium with France’s Total and China, won praise from Mr Putin who oversaw the launch of the first cargo from the Siberian peninsula at the end of last year. Previously Russia had no easy means of getting LNG into Europe, with its only facility in the far east of the country. The Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy said on Tuesday the UK was “in no way reliant” on Russian gas and maintained that “less than 1 per cent of our gas comes from Russia”. But the arrival of three Russian tankers of LNG since January suggests supplies from Yamal have gained a significant foothold in the UK. Two of the shipments have been brought to the UK by Malaysia’s Petronas, which has a trading arm based in London and has a stake in the Dragon LNG terminal in South Wales. The other was brought in by Royal Dutch Shell earlier this month after a vicious cold snap raised UK gas prices. Two cargoes from Yamal have also gone to Boston in the US, raising questions about local opposition to gas pipeline development that has kept the city largely cut off from the US shale gas boom. Novatek, a private company whose directors include Gennady Timchenko — a close ally of Mr Putin — has said it is simply part of a global market for LNG. “It’s kind of a shame that we’ve been vilified in the press for helping the city of Boston with their cold shortage, and then today we’ve been again vilified by the city of London for delivering LNG to London at a time when they needed gas,” Novatek chief financial officer Mark Gyetvay said at a conference in Houston last week. “Actually you should be blaming not me, you should be blaming this fellow here,” he added, gesticulating at a fellow panel member, Anuar Taib of Malaysia’s Petronas. “Because we sold it to them." On Tuesday the latest Russian tanker, the icebreaker-class Eduard Toll, was preparing to unload its cargo at the Isle of Grain terminal on the Kent coast, where it is expected it will be regasified and pumped into the National Grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 43 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Try this one: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/62856154-26b1-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, pongo said: Here you go Woody. https://www.ft.com/content/62856154-26b1-11e8-b27e-cc62a39d57a0 yet the national grid says none has entered the uk network...... and none of this goal post moving changes the fact that the uk doesn't buy gas from russia.... (i never mentioned lpg or lng) andrew neil and choochoo have repeatedly made the same claim, yet none of you go after them..... keep digging snowflakes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, woody2 said: none of this goal post moving changes the fact that the uk doesn't buy gas from russia.... Read the article Chinahand linked to. I have posted the text of it above. Britain buys Russian gas. From Russia. Or are they making Russian gas somewhere else now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 @ FT: Quote “We rely fairly heavy on imports of gas to get through the winter,” said Trevor Sikorski, chief gas analyst at Energy Aspects in London. Bit suspicious that name. Is this Putin's fifth column to make us dependent on their gas? To go with all of the other fifth columns we seem to have imported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, pongo said: Read the article Chinahand linked to. I have posted the text of it above. Britain buys Russian gas. From Russia. Or are they making Russian gas somewhere else now? no it doesn't, it mentions total and petronas..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 They are the companies which bought the russian gas to be imported - this goes to your original pointless point that it isn't bought directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chinahand said: They are the companies which bought the russian gas to be imported - this goes to your original pointless point that it isn't bought directly. getting there..... still no evidence of the uk buying from russia...... and the lng has not entered the uk network so has no relevance...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, woody2 said: getting there..... still no evidence of the uk buying from russia...... and the lng has not entered the uk network so has no relevance...... Almost no gas anywhere is bought directly. That's how pointless your pointless point is. LNG bought from Russia goes into the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Woody, read the last sentence of the FT report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Chinahand said: Woody, read the last sentence of the FT report. "expected" so hasn't..... it also states ships have gone to boston, but reports say it was turned away..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, pongo said: Almost no gas anywhere is bought directly. That's how pointless your pointless point is. LNG bought from Russia goes into the grid. does it.... "that the volumes unloaded at the terminal will not be pumped into the National Grid UK transmission network." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, woody2 said: "that the volumes unloaded at the terminal will not be pumped into the National Grid UK transmission network." That's a rather disingenuous post. Are you trolling again? Your quote is not from the FT article Chinahand linked to. It's from a different article about a different shipment - a very specific shipment. Completely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Is the Express a good enough source for you Woody - you are correct that the Gas imported into the UK in December wasn't used in the National Grid, but re-exported but since then it has - 3 shipments since January. But even as Mr Johnson made his statement to the House of Commons, a huge tanker laden with a cargo of Siberian liquefied natural gas (LGN) was docking at the Welsh port of Milford Haven and the much-needed fuel was being pumped into the network to replenish Britain’s depleted energy supplies. Also try googling this if you can't get past the paywall: Siberian gas delivery to UK offers relief after cold blast The LNG cargo is being brought to the UK by Royal Dutch Shell, according to two people familiar with the shipment. Shell is expected to collect the cargo this weekend from a Russian LNG icebreaker with its own chartered vessel, executing a ship-to-ship transfer of the super-cooled fuel off the coast of western France. The market is facing a strong test of how well it can operate without being able to rely on Rough for additional storage volumes Oliver Burdett, EnAppSys Shell is then due to deliver the cargo on March 6 to an LNG terminal at Milford Haven, which will regasify the shipment and pump it into the UK network. The later FT article Pongo copied shows they were put into the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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