Declan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 23 hours ago, the stinking enigma said: It's quite bizarre that corbyn still ends up copping the flak over this. He isn't really. It's really becoming concerning how every time there's coverage of him, there's a howl of protest that he's being maligned. Look at that pathetic uproar over his hat on Newsnight. Yes the Tory press are against him but always against Labour leaders. They're giving him a relatively soft ride compared to Kinnock and Milliband. But the BBC? One of their reporters asks him a fairly tough question and my facebook feed fills up with conspiracy theories and accusations of bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 So do you think the flak he is copping over the russian thing is fair and justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 32 minutes ago, Neil Down said: That magic word. If nothing else it has caused Putin a few problems. That's not a bad thing But it has made us look like fools with our reactionary knee jerking and lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said: You mean the ones that have thus far provided no evidence and lied about having said evidence, yet have started a course of action that is now spreading to several other nations? A course of action that could have serious repercussions. have you got any evidence to back that up....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Declan said: He isn't really. It's really becoming concerning how every time there's coverage of him, there's a howl of protest that he's being maligned. Look at that pathetic uproar over his hat on Newsnight. Yes the Tory press are against him but always against Labour leaders. They're giving him a relatively soft ride compared to Kinnock and Milliband. But the BBC? One of their reporters asks him a fairly tough question and my facebook feed fills up with conspiracy theories and accusations of bias. you want to see twitter, its full of them.... 41 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said: So do you think the flak he is copping over the russian thing is fair and justified? yes, when it comes to foreign policy, its his duty to support the government..... he was briefed before any statement was made and raised no concerns..... #redperil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said: So do you think the flak he is copping over the russian thing is fair and justified? 13 minutes ago, woody2 said: yes, when it comes to foreign policy, its his duty to support the government..... Don't be deliberately silly. You might disagree with his opinion - that's fine. But it's his *duty* only to say what he believes to be right. And he's the opposition. (I'm fairly certain that "duty" is often a bollocks concept anyhow) Declan is right about the whole political victim mentality which Momentum and co currently demonstrate. But Trump's people, UKIP etc are just as sensitive and prickly. They're all convinced that the media is some sort of conspiracy and out to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, pongo said: Declan is right about the whole political victim mentality which Momentum and co currently demonstrate. But Trump's people, UKIP etc are just as sensitive and prickly. They're all convinced that the media is some sort of conspiracy and out to get them. I suppose so, but I'm not a member of UKIP or the Republican Party and nor are any of my friends. Labour should be better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Declan said: I suppose so, but I'm not a member of UKIP or the Republican Party and nor are any of my friends. Labour should be better than them. I agree. I think it's that the "media hates us" thing has become how people do politics now. Right whingers moaning about the BBC. Left whingers moaning about the BBC. One of the things I liked about New Labour was that they learned how to better get a message across - instead of moaning about being poorly portrayed by the media. Then they had to get their message in The Sun. But today we live in a horrible world of Twitter and hashtags. Labour should probably hire someone who can communicate in the style of Woody and Twinkle. Because that's about where things are now. It's a very depressing outlook. And things are going to get a lot more stupid yet. Soon it will just be grunts and smileys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody2 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, pongo said: Don't be deliberately silly. You might disagree with his opinion - that's fine. But it's his *duty* only to say what he believes to be right. And he's the opposition. (I'm fairly certain that "duty" is often a bollocks concept anyhow) Declan is right about the whole political victim mentality which Momentum and co currently demonstrate. But Trump's people, UKIP etc are just as sensitive and prickly. They're all convinced that the media is some sort of conspiracy and out to get them. nope- foreign policy and national security its his duty to support the government, it has nothing to do with been in opposition..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Utter bollocks woody. I'm surprised at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 hours ago, RIchard Britten said: But it has made us look like fools with our reactionary knee jerking and lying. In the whiter than white world of politics, do you think anybody gives a hoot. Feel free to list the number of countries that don't lie to suit themselves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 - Nambia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2. Binomo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Neil Down said: In the whiter than white world of politics, do you think anybody gives a hoot. Feel free to list the number of countries that don't lie to suit themselves.. The difference being, the UK has been caught out in the lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: The difference being, the UK has been caught out in the lie. Any other countries ever been caught out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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