Newsbot Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Recycling figures are on the rise on the Isle of Man. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/6267065.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Recycling figures are on the rise on the Isle of Man. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/6267065.stm Percentage increases may look good but the IOM is still far behind UK and Europe in all kinds of waste minimisation and recycling. What they need to look at is the total amount of waste being produced and recyled then give us the fgures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Recycling figures are on the rise on the Isle of Man. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/6267065.stm Percentage increases may look good but the IOM is still far behind UK and Europe in all kinds of waste minimisation and recycling. What they need to look at is the total amount of waste being produced and recyled then give us the fgures. Wouldn't it be better if all the retailers started minimising the packaging and making much of it bio-degradable? This is scientifically possible and is the major cause of this problem. For every boat-load of containers of food coming to the island, 3 out of of every five boats are just carrying packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Recycling figures are on the rise on the Isle of Man. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/6267065.stm Percentage increases may look good but the IOM is still far behind UK and Europe in all kinds of waste minimisation and recycling. What they need to look at is the total amount of waste being produced and recyled then give us the fgures. Wouldn't it be better if all the retailers started minimising the packaging and making much of it bio-degradable? This is scientifically possible and is the major cause of this problem. For every boat-load of containers of food coming to the island, 3 out of of every five boats are just carrying packaging. Under the European Packaging Directive manufacturers and retailers are responsible for taking back pacakaging. But unfortunately we're not in the EU. You can see progress being made by UK www.letsrecycle.com/legislation because they HAVE TO under the Packaging Directive.Otherwise they would still be bumbling along like the IOM. www.letsrecycle.com/legislation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 We can't do it by ourselves. Sorry for stating the obvious Albert. I believe our Government should be liaising with others to examine ways of bringing your suggestion about. In the meantime the consumer should choose if possible products with the least packaging. Now membership of the EU. How much time have we got on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Under the European Packaging Directive manufacturers and retailers are responsible for taking back pacakaging. But unfortunately we're not in the EU. We've got a Tesco's. See clicky: When Ben Bradshaw suggested that customers remove their packaging at the till the Tesco spokesperson responded thus: "We would prefer it if our customers use our recycling facilities, but if customers want to leave their packaging with us we will deal with it appropriately." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Flynn Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Governments particularly in the UK must force producers and retailers to play a bigger role in waste reduction as households are reluctant to reduce waste. Legislation that financially penalises producers for producing excessive non-recyclable packaging waste is the main weapon that Government has in doing this. Packaging can increase the shelf life of a product and helps supermarkets reduce their losses when the food needs to travel a great distance. But where possible food should be sourced locally as this will preserve the nutritious value. Where packaging can't be avoided the packaging should be made from compostable or easily recycled materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 There is a great green waste disposal site on the island which nobody seems to know about. Ballaneven Organic Compost on the poortown road is a really good company that is turning most of the islands green waste into compost in 16 to 20 weeks. If your in the market to get rid of your green waste or need a lot of compost give the boy's a ring on 451857 Where there is sh*te there is brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomed Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 So what happens to the mountains of glass bottles that are collected in the specially provided public bins ? Are they processed on the island or sent across or what. Likewise what happens to the papers that are collected in the bins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 So what happens to the mountains of glass bottles that are collected in the specially provided public bins ?Are they processed on the island or sent across or what. Likewise what happens to the papers that are collected in the bins. All the bottles are taken to Corlett's Quarry at Ballaharra to be crushed up. But I don't think they could cope if all the glass on the island was collected as it will be when they do kerbside collections. The paper goes to a mill across to be recycled for newsprint. For some strange reason it goes via the incinerator entrance hall but they assure everybody who visits that they don'r burn any of it. They put it in a vehicle and take it to the UK. Apparently it is 'cost neutral' to the government because what they get for the paper pays for the shipping costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diomed Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Well that Ok for the paper then, no probs. But what happens after the glass has been crushed. No issue here, just wondering what happens to the end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alias Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Wouldn't it be better if all the retailers started minimising the packaging and making much of it bio-degradable? This is scientifically possible and is the major cause of this problem. For every boat-load of containers of food coming to the island, 3 out of of every five boats are just carrying packaging. Making packaging bio-degradable would make a large contribution to greenhouse emissions. When packaging is biodegraded it gives out methane (biodegrading is just the fermentation of material by bacteria anaerobically). Since the carbon and hydrogen for our packaging comes mostly from fossil fuels, we are effectively unleashing into the atmosphere the carbon contents of this packaging as greenhouse gases. In fact, landfills would help in reducing global warming if they were properly sealed and only contained carbon compounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Wouldn't it be better if all the retailers started minimising the packaging and making much of it bio-degradable? This is scientifically possible and is the major cause of this problem. For every boat-load of containers of food coming to the island, 3 out of of every five boats are just carrying packaging. Making packaging bio-degradable would make a large contribution to greenhouse emissions. When packaging is biodegraded it gives out methane (biodegrading is just the fermentation of material by bacteria anaerobically). Since the carbon and hydrogen for our packaging comes mostly from fossil fuels, we are effectively unleashing into the atmosphere the carbon contents of this packaging as greenhouse gases. In fact, landfills would help in reducing global warming if they were properly sealed and only contained carbon compounds. Damn - forgot about that. We'll what about everything being made out of plastic then? - including newspapers, 'tins' etc. That's also possible and everything could be recycled back into plastic pellets all in one go and far more efficiently. We already have have plastic engines and plastic pound notes etc. so I can't see the problem. If not I'll have to go back to my plan A which involves culling lots of humans instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Well that Ok for the paper then, no probs. But what happens after the glass has been crushed. No issue here, just wondering what happens to the end product. The end product is available for purchase from Corlett's Ballaharra Quarry in the form of paving bricks which a have a % of ground up glass in them. But they don't seem to advertise very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Wouldn't it be better if all the retailers started minimising the packaging and making much of it bio-degradable? This is scientifically possible and is the major cause of this problem. For every boat-load of containers of food coming to the island, 3 out of of every five boats are just carrying packaging. Making packaging bio-degradable would make a large contribution to greenhouse emissions. When packaging is biodegraded it gives out methane (biodegrading is just the fermentation of material by bacteria anaerobically). Since the carbon and hydrogen for our packaging comes mostly from fossil fuels, we are effectively unleashing into the atmosphere the carbon contents of this packaging as greenhouse gases. In fact, landfills would help in reducing global warming if they were properly sealed and only contained carbon compounds. Damn - forgot about that. We'll what about everything being made out of plastic then? - including newspapers, 'tins' etc. That's also possible and everything could be recycled back into plastic pellets all in one go and far more efficiently. We already have have plastic engines and plastic pound notes etc. so I can't see the problem. If not I'll have to go back to my plan A which involves culling lots of humans instead. Plastic is made out of oil and oil resources are going to run out some time this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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