Iran: A War Is Coming

[Rog]

6 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said:

Oh look, someone is trying to justify ethnic cleansing and genocide...for the greater good...

Now where did I even remotely hint at ethnic cleansing let alone genocide? 

Replace "Islam" with Communism.  Would confronting creeping communism be ethnic cleansing or genocide?

THIS IS ABOUT IDEOLOGY.

[RIchard Britten]

4 minutes ago, Rog said:

Now where did I even remotely hint at ethnic cleansing let alone genocide? 

Replace "Islam" with Communism.  Would confronting creeping communism be ethnic cleansing or genocide?

THIS IS ABOUT IDEOLOGY.

And how do you intend to "confront" it to stop "world domination"?

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Replace "Islam" with Communism

Apples and Oranges.  One is a religious belief and the other is a system of socio-political "government".

[manxman1980]

11 minutes ago, Rog said:

THIS IS ABOUT IDEOLOGY.

This is about an ideology that is different from our own.

There is nothing inherently evil in communism or Islam.  Certainly evil acts have been done in the name of both, but then evil deeds have also been done in the name of Christianity and Capitalism.

[Rog]

12 minutes ago, manxman1980 said:

This is about an ideology that is different from our own.

There is nothing inherently evil in communism or Islam.  Certainly evil acts have been done in the name of both, but then evil deeds have also been done in the name of Christianity and Capitalism.

In the case of Islam I do not agree.

[RIchard Britten]

3 minutes ago, Rog said:

In the case of Islam I do not agree.

It doesnt matter whether you agree or not.

Thanks for playing.

[Chinahand]

1 hour ago, Rog said:

In the case of Islam I do not agree.

In the case of communism I do not agree. 

[RIchard Britten]

[Rog]

14 minutes ago, Chinahand said:

In the case of communism I do not agree. 

I can understand that.  There are aspects of communism that are to be respected.

[Chinahand]

You cannot abolish individual property rights without tyranny. 

[Chinahand]

And getting back on topic, Iran is a violent tyranny which suppresses its own population an exports its violence via the Quds Forces Suleimani commanded. 
 

[RIchard Britten]

7 minutes ago, Chinahand said:

And getting back on topic, Iran is a violent tyranny which suppresses its own population an exports its violence via the Quds Forces Suleimani commanded. 

However, that doesn't justify assassination of a foreign military leader on the soil of another sovereign nation, especially in such a sensitive area as Iraq.

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...an exports its violence via the Quds Forces Suleimani commanded. 

Same could be said of the SAS, US Delta, Mossad, GSG9 etc.

They aren't delivering cuddles on behalf of their countries.

Edited January 6, 2020 by RIchard Britten

[manxman1980]

4 hours ago, Chinahand said:

In the case of communism I do not agree. 

I suppose in an ideal scenario the population would come together and give up property rights without the need for tyranny.  You know, for the greater good and all that.  

I do not see anything inherently evil in the ideas of communism but do accept that people are capable of very evil deeds and will use ideologies and religions to justify there actions.  Nazi Germany had the holocaust, Communist Russia did something similar (but hey they were an ally at the time) plus they had the Gulags.  The European powers spread their empires and engaged in stealing resources from the countries they invaded and claimed, and they engaged in the slave trade.

Human beings really are a bunch of b*stards. 

 

[Rushen Spy]

10 hours ago, Rog said:

There has been no  declaration of war.

You don't need to "declare" a war to start a war.

[Ďouglas Peel]

9 hours ago, manxman1980 said:

This is about an ideology that is different from our own.

There is nothing inherently evil in communism or Islam.  Certainly evil acts have been done in the name of both, but then evil deeds have also been done in the name of Christianity and Capitalism.

In the History of Islam, the Sword has been the most effective tool in the propogation of 1400 year old fables,to say there is nothing inherently evil ,then we must ignore, the Barbary Coast pirates,taking people as slaves,from as far away as Iceland,Ireland,etc,and forcing peoples to move away from the Med coast,Fast forward  a hundred years to the Armenian genocide,the "young turks" were of what faith?this evil slaughtering of thousands,gave the German railway providers the idea for the genocide,that came later and overshadowed the Armenian tragedy.Dhimmie taxes and Jizya taxes make it difficult for non muslims to exist,once the religion takes over,is this evil?Fast forward another hundred years,37,000 terrorist attacks since 9/11,many this week,is this evil? Perhaps not, but dont ignore facts.

[Rushen Spy]

2 minutes ago, Ďouglas Peel said:

In the History of Christianity and Islam, the Sword has been the most effective tool in the propogation......

Fixed.