Albert Tatlock Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I think the dangers from assorted nutters of the modern world outweigh any personal liberty issues. If you are doing nothing wrong what have you really got to hide? (taking cover from the personal liberty nutters) Another sucker caught in The Trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Had a trip recently with my elder child - they demanded photo ID at the airport - luckily I'd thought about this and brought his passport. But our youngest is still too young for a passport - therefore no ID. Is the only way to get our little bundle of joy off the Island the boat? The only photo ID i've got is a family picture! The excuse for demanding a passport for a toddler - I might be trying to kidnap him. Bureaucracy run amoc - makes my blood boil! @ Ballaughbiker - I know with Private Aviation you need to provide Special Branch personal details 24 hours in advance of all passengers - I don't think that applies to schedules, but am hazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I once asked what was being searched for at Douglas, the answer was that "if we find it we will be able to tell you" The funny thing was that I had copied my tax disk from one of my bikes and stuck it in the window. (I am now legal BTW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guardone Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 35 years ago my manx brother in law returned to Douglas from Uni in London. He was stopped by the police on the Douglas landing stage and asked "what the likes of him thought they were doing in trying to enter the island". (he has always had unkempt long hair). After ID ing his dad, they let him in. Returning through Speke, I was asked by SB if I "could have been to Ireland". I answered honestly, I "could" have been, as I had been over for a week, but I had not actually been. They kept me for an hour, until a superior saw sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karellen Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Had a trip recently with my elder child - they demanded photo ID at the airport - luckily I'd thought about this and brought his passport. But our youngest is still too young for a passport - therefore no ID. I dont think you can be too young for a passport - my youngest had his issued at 3 months, which will last him until he is 5 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynsheltyn Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 A mate of mine is flying from Manchester to Scotland in the summer and has to get a passport for his daughter to prove her identity. No other photo ID is acceptable, as she hasn't got a driving licence. Thin end of the wedge stuff, as soon passports=ID card and biometric testing. Just to support Albert's comment, my daughter had to get a passport this week (promptly and expensively) to go to Scotland because lovely BA said "the IoM isn't part of the UK so she has to have a passport". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 Just to support Albert's comment, my daughter had to get a passport this week (promptly and expensively) to go to Scotland because lovely BA said "the IoM isn't part of the UK so she has to have a passport". As the Isle of Man and Scotland are both part of the Common Travel Area this could be very easily challenged. It's not up to BA to make the law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 A mate of mine is flying from Manchester to Scotland in the summer and has to get a passport for his daughter to prove her identity. No other photo ID is acceptable, as she hasn't got a driving licence. Thin end of the wedge stuff, as soon passports=ID card and biometric testing. Just to support Albert's comment, my daughter had to get a passport this week (promptly and expensively) to go to Scotland because lovely BA said "the IoM isn't part of the UK so she has to have a passport". Everyone knows you need photo ID to get on a plane to/from the Island. You've needed it for about 5 years. Was the 'prompt and expensive' thing BA's fault or your daughter's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynsheltyn Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Everyone knows you need photo ID to get on a plane to/from the Island. You've needed it for about 5 years. Was the 'prompt and expensive' thing BA's fault or your daughter's? Well, I don't think I can blame my daughter. She's only 11 years old. As a weekly air traveller for the past 25 years through Ronaldsway and most UK airports I have never had to show any photo identification. My fault, perhaps, for assuming this might be the case for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Everyone knows you need photo ID to get on a plane to/from the Island. You've needed it for about 5 years. Was the 'prompt and expensive' thing BA's fault or your daughter's? Well, I don't think I can blame my daughter. She's only 11 years old. As a weekly air traveller for the past 25 years through Ronaldsway and most UK airports I have never had to show any photo identification. My fault, perhaps, for assuming this might be the case for everyone. Every flight to and from the Island (and indeed between locations in the UK) I've been on in the last five or six years has required me to produce photo identification when collecting my ticket. Usually the requirement has always been made explicit in the booking documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Yep, same experience. You need to produce photo ID when you check in. How has Ynsheltyn managed to get away without it for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 The issue for me is accompanied children. The idea that young children have to have a photo id is just just wrong. ID the parents - fine. But in all honestly I have no idea if my youngest can travel - no passport yet - why should I get one just to travel to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynsheltyn Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Yep, same experience. You need to produce photo ID when you check in. How has Ynsheltyn managed to get away without it for so long? Dunno. I've just never been asked. In the past 5 years, for example, I've travelled through airports at Sumburgh, Kirkwall, Wick, Stornoway, Inverness, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, IoM, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Southampton, Gatwick, Heathrow, and probably others I can't recall. Not once have I been asked for photo identification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotlima Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I can understand your point of view entirely Chinahand, but as someone with a perhaps alternative family set up I can see another side of the coin. Ok, worst case scenario, but The Hague Children's Convention '96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Dunno. I've just never been asked.In the past 5 years, for example, I've travelled through airports at Sumburgh, Kirkwall, Wick, Stornoway, Inverness, Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh, IoM, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Manchester, Bristol, Southampton, Gatwick, Heathrow, and probably others I can't recall. Not once have I been asked for photo identification. I travel between here and Bristol. Not only do they ask for photo ID at least 3 times, they also ask me why I want to visit the Island.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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