modey Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 32 now dead and rising. BBC news story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotlima Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Official (current figures) from CNN and Fox, 31 dead, 21 injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotlima Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Gunman now confirmed as dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Gunman now confirmed as dead Where there many killed in friendly fire? Seems to be the US's standard MO in any situation these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 4/13/2007 Today is one of the most important days of the year for gun owners. The start of the NRA Annual Meetings is both a celebration of freedom and a rally for the Second Amendment, but it's also a show of force by gun owners to the enemies of freedom everywhere. As tens of thousands of freedom-loving Americans descend on St. Louis, the anti-gunners are doing everything they can to chip away at your rights. http://www.nra.org/ We just need Charlton Heston banging on about how cool guns are now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotlima Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Where there many killed in friendly fire? Seems to be the US's standard MO in any situation these days. I shall not cast aspersions, but the 9mm isn't generally the US firearm of choice, they seem to go for something a with a little more "ooomph" and ability to cause destruction Still, tragic enough as it is. First reports were that the gunman had been apprehended, but apparently he took his life, a la Harris and Klebold. This picture was caught by a college student and posted on another website of the gunman http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t191/Foxtrotlima73/lonegunman.jpg[/img]Gunman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 This two hour gap between the first and second shooting incidents seems very strange. American radio has reported that there may well have been two shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 coverage on abcnews - http://abcnews.go.com/ People are even asked to update their myspace or facebook accounts to show they're ok - times really have moved on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I keep hearing how shocked American are at what happened. Why? Every country has part of the population that at one time during their life are mentally unstable, but in the USA they can have guns and be mentally unstable at the same time. Not a good mixture at all I'm sorry for those killed and the friends and family they've left, but it won't be the last time this happens in the USA, not while gun ownership is 1 in 3 in some states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrotlima Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 TOG - Don't forget the "Open a bank account, get a firearm free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 "Going Postal" isn't just about the fact that US citizens can legally purchase firearms...... You can buy guns in a lot of countries, the UK included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatopian Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 People do indeed kill people... but a cheap, plentiful and minimally regulated supply of guns really helps things along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelslikeitshould Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I too was curious as to how the guy managed to get himself and his (according to eye witnesses) immense arsenal across 600m of campus from the dorm to the engineering class whilst the police were there. Maybe there were 2 gunmen, I'm sure it'll become clear soon enough. The truely distrubing thing if there was the one gunman is that (BBC) 2 people were killed in the 7:15 shooting and 31 in the 9:15 shooting. I have a feeling that the relaxed gun laws and the fact that the National Rifle Association HQ is in Virginia will be swept to one side and the college/local law enforcement blamed for gross mismanagement of a situation where such loss of life could've been avoided if the suspect had been apprehended or the campus shut down after the first shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I too was curious as to how the guy managed to get himself and his (according to eye witnesses) immense arsenal across 600m of campus from the dorm to the engineering class whilst the police were there. Maybe there were 2 gunmen, I'm sure it'll become clear soon enough. There were 25,000 people all around his age at the campus. Wouldn't be too hard to hide amongst that lot and carry a rucksack with books, guns (apparently hand guns were used) and ammunition in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 I too was curious as to how the guy managed to get himself and his (according to eye witnesses) immense arsenal across 600m of campus from the dorm to the engineering class whilst the police were there. Maybe there were 2 gunmen, I'm sure it'll become clear soon enough. There were 25,000 people all around his age at the campus. Wouldn't be too hard to hide amongst that lot and carry a rucksack with books, guns (apparently hand guns were used) and ammunition in it. I can imagine the NRA's response already - give every student a gun to defend themselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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