copycat Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 The new £168,000 DTL visitor initiative has been launched with advertorial comment in the Travel section of today's Times newspaper. "The smoking ban in enclosed places that begins tomorrow does not affect the Isle of Man, which is hoping to cash in on the cigarette pound. Apparently leading international tobacco brands welcome and endorse the initiative and are looking at how they can sponsor the Island's sports activities - including the holding of a major world snooker tournament televised from the Villa Marina as a change in venue from the Crucible Theater, Sheffield as well as the 2009 World Darts Championship being played here instead of the current Lakeside venue. Following the introduction of the smoking ban the UK's major Bingo promoters are also looking at organising special week-end and mid-week break bingo holidays to the Isle of Smoke with coach travel companies from traditional working class club land areas of Britain promoting special excursion fares. - the DTL obviously has more money for its budget than it knows what to do with and IMO the funding should be transferred to get the health service and breast screening services etc etc up and running - then again maybe govt is planning a PFI initiative with health service funding being sponsored by a ciggie company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Are you making this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 including the holding of a major world snooker tournament televised from the Villa Marina as a change in venue from the Crucible Theater, Sheffield as well as the 2009 World Darts Championship being played here instead of the current Lakeside venue. That would be great, Just a shame you made it up again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Again, a load of old bollocks from our favourite poster. The ban comes here in 2008 so why move a 2009 fixture? Please credit us with some intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copycat Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 but see the exemptions and loopholes to be exploited by the ciggie companies in the legislation that allow for such sponsorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 ah, so its to do with ability to advertise tobacco, not smoke it. Another misleading copycat mcb headline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannin Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 ah, so its to do with ability to advertise tobacco, not smoke it. Another misleading copycat mcb headline Stop press, stop press, stop press, stop press, stop press, : British GP moved to Jurby; World snooker @ the Villa; Sefton is really the centre of the universe; Copycat not a twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copycat Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 a health initiative is to require people admitted to hospital for treatment of conditions that are smoking related to have to make a reasonable contribution towards the cost of treatment - much like an excess on an insurance policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcCann Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 It would be a bit pointless moving the snooker to the Villa Marina what with it being a no smoking building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 You making that up? Besides that would be morally wrong all the extra duty smokers have paid over the years should be viewed as the premium for future health costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copycat Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 no, the duty isn't ringfenced for health service costs, so its easy enough from a blood test to see what tobacco chemicals are in the blood stream and then the patient will be provided with an excess payment request relating to the cost of the treatment and if they don't pay then and there then the cost is re-couped from an increase in the individuals NI contributions or reduction in benefit payments - the cost to society having to pay for others health problems should be borne more by those who incur the costs - much like the polluter pays principle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 most medical trteatment goes on children and old people to treat things specific to them as demographic groups I love the idea of charging the young and the old for treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 no, the duty isn't ringfenced for health service costs, so its easy enough from a blood test to see what tobacco chemicals are in the blood stream and then the patient will be provided with an excess payment request relating to the cost of the treatment and if they don't pay then and there then the cost is re-couped from an increase in the individuals NI contributions or reduction in benefit payments - the cost to society having to pay for others health problems should be borne more by those who incur the costs - much like the polluter pays principle But where is there any moral justification for doing that? And where does it end? At least smokers pay increased tax into the government pot, unlike say the obese. Would you charge them? What about sporting injuries? Or people who don't take regular exercise? At the end of the day, we either have a National Health Service that is free for all or we don't. Once you introduce the concept of whether the sick person is deserving of treatment or not the whole thing falls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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