GD4ELI Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Incidently insuring your dog is completly and totally worthless, as is all insurance. You really should have 3rd-party insurance, it is not expensive and FWIW is mandatory in some countries, I have 3m quid cover. You can easily be bankrupted if your dog injures someone. I don't think there's any point in health insurance for animals - premiums are high and operations etc. not too expensive. If you have some savings then forget health insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 The owner was very apologetic for the behaviour of 'Tyson' (!) and explained he was only a year old and still hard to control. The dog wasn't on a lead, he'd not been neutered, and looked plenty big enough to me. I only stayed around long enough to tell the owner that having a dog like that in a public place where there are children is a really bad idea. Young dogs often try to play with people as they did play with their brothers and sisters - very much a rough and tumble affair, it's up to the owner to stop that by training. Neutering is not the solution, it's training. Where I live I meet a lot of young dogs like this and the solution I use is to just talk with them and tell them off - almost all young dogs are cowards really just wanting to be loved (seriously). The worst dogs I meet are older females, they can be brutally aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 My wife is a vet. The dog most likely to try and bite her is the Border Collie. Second most likely to try is the Alsation and third is the Spaniels (mainly Cocker). All of these breeds she will insist on them being muzzled before they are brought in to her practise for their first visit to her. The vast majority can have their muzzles removed within a couple of minutes but there's always the odd scaredy that is just too nervous to trust. I seriously suggest that if your wife has problems with Cocker Spaniels then she needs better training. My local vet can walk up to a snarling evil dog and within seconds it's licking his hands and is very submissive. If she can't handle a Cocker Spaniel - even a bad-tempered female - then she's to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 If she can't handle a Cocker Spaniel - even a bad-tempered female - then she's to blame. Don't remember posting anywhere that she can't handle them. What I did post was those breeds that posed the highest risk. I take it you're a Veterinary Surgeon as well then? If you are a vet then I'm sure you have heard of this then http://www.dogstuff.info/cocker_rage_syndrome.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cocker spaniels are awful beasts anyway. They look like foppish beagles and should be treated with nothing but disdain until they sort those dreadful ears out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cocker spaniels are awful beasts anyway. They look like foppish beagles and should be treated with nothing but disdain until they sort those dreadful ears out. Coincidently my three Cockers were saying just the same thing about you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeddan Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cocker spaniels are awful beasts anyway. They look like foppish beagles and should be treated with nothing but disdain until they sort those dreadful ears out. Bring on Tyson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cocker spaniels are awful beasts anyway. They look like foppish beagles and should be treated with nothing but disdain until they sort those dreadful ears out. Coincidently my three Cockers were saying just the same thing about you! I have lovely ears. Your cocker spaniels, on the other hand, look as if they're searching for a particularly louche casino in which to fritter away their lives getting up to no good. Decadent, gauche, and ruffled -Cocker spaniels are a menace to decency and the social order. Especially yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Young dogs often try to play with people as they did play with their brothers and sisters - very much a rough and tumble affair, it's up to the owner to stop that by training. Neutering is not the solution, it's training. Where I live I meet a lot of young dogs like this and the solution I use is to just talk with them and tell them off - almost all young dogs are cowards really just wanting to be loved (seriously). It is up to the owner to train dogs properly. I was walking to work the other day and some little fluffy thing ran up to me and started jumping all over my legs. The owner just stood there looking embarrassed, but did nothing. Didn't grab it and put it's lead on. Didn't even call it. Just stood there looking like a spare part. This went on for ages until I asked if he could get his dog off me. "She won't bite, she's only playing" was his reply. "I don't want it's paws on my suit" was mine. I couldn't give a shit if it was only playing. I couldn't give a shit if was a coward who just wanted to be loved. I just don't want dogs approaching me while I'm minding my own business. I'd rather kick it in the face than talk to it and tell it off. Not my job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Decadent, gauche, and ruffled -Cocker spaniels are a menace to decency and the social order. Especially yours. There may be some truth in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Cocker spaniels are awful beasts anyway. They look like foppish beagles and should be treated with nothing but disdain until they sort those dreadful ears out. Coincidently my three Cockers were saying just the same thing about you! I have lovely ears. Your cocker spaniels, on the other hand, look as if they're searching for a particularly louche casino in which to fritter away their lives getting up to no good. Decadent, gauche, and ruffled -Cocker spaniels are a menace to decency and the social order. Especially yours. You've just been influenced too much by Coolidge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeddan Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Not my job. Exactly Mr Sausages - I don't want dogs jumping up on me either - nor do I want to be a surrogate canine sibling for rough and tumble tussles, and I don't see why I should have to learn dog handling when the owner should be doing that job. But I really don't want to kick a dog, or even have to carry pepper spray, but maybe if people did start pepper-spraying dogs that jump on them, owners would be less complacent. Not a happy solution is it? There's no disagreement that there are people who are dog owners who are simply not proficient. Maybe license the owners - not the dogs. Why not have a simple proficiency test - like a driving test - and you can lose points or be banned or restricted (or have advanced license and thus can own restricted breeds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxblue Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Bad dogs have bad owners, bad kids have bad, ......well, you get my drift !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trostagh Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Bad dogs have bad owners, bad kids have bad, ......well, you get my drift !!!! Well said - the dog's behaviour is down to the owner. I regularly walk on the beach at Kirk Michael and have been worried on several occasions by dogs loose on the beach while their owners scream to no avail or ignore the fact that their dog is standing, teeth bared and barking, inches from some poor beggar who's simply out for a walk. If you walk your dog on this beach please note that I now have a big stick and will use it to whack any dog that does this to me again. For this piece of training there will be no charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 i dont think banning dogs is the problems, its mostly the owners fault, but sometimes u do get a dog that is just plain bad, but then again that comes down the the owner to sort out, a dog is a wild animal after all, and all dogs have the power and incline to kill, some more than others, its not the dogs fault but its just in there breeding, i have seen all sorts of dogs that u would normaly call safe turn and kill/bite at the blink of an eye, put any dog in a field with livestock and i would 80% of them would chase and try and kill them, its what thay were breed for, unfortunately owners still let there dogs of the lead and no matter how much training, some off them just cant be stopped, so just a little note for you more reckless dog owners dont let you dogs of the lead near fields more so at this time of year, because thay do and will be shot by the land owners, thay dont want to, but sometimes there is no other options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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