Lonan3 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Can't find the original thread (was it closed?) so will merely post THIS LINK and leave the comments to others for the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin Span Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Can't find the original thread (was it closed?) so will merely post THIS LINK and leave the comments to others for the moment. Chief Constables annual report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Correct link: http://www.manxradio.com/readNEwsItem.aspx?id=11567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 Correct link: http://www.manxradio.com/readNEwsItem.aspx?id=11567 Ooooops! Sorry folks! (And thanks, Mr S) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 quite right too, can't have them all getting off cos of who they are. if i'd have done that i'd probably be up for attempted murder or assault with a deadly weopon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hopefully all the cover up bollocks can be put to rest now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 quite right too, can't have them all getting off cos of who they are. if i'd have done that i'd probably be up for attempted murder or assault with a deadly weopon. I doubt very much if you would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Like The Moon Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 This is taken from Wikipedia re due care and attention (and I note that Manx Law is slightly different) Driving without Due Care The Road Traffic Act 1988 (until the revision by the Road Safety Act 2006) contains law that addresses the manner in which a person drives. At its basic section 3 Road Traffic Act 1988 provides that: “If a person drives a motor vehicle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence.” The offence is summary only. It can cover a multitude of occurrences and criminalises at the lower end absent mindedness and inattention to more serious cases where a motorist may collide with someone on say pedestrian crossing. The test as to whether a person has contravened the section is an objective one. The question asked is has the person departed from the ordinary care to be expected by a reasonable and competent motorist. Impatient driving, aggressive driving and tailgating would all amount to driving that the a reasonable and competent motorist would not do. When sentencing the the Courts have directed their attention to the nature of the departure from good driving, rather than looking towards the outcome. However, there is now a move more towards the outcome of the poor driving. R v Simmons [1999] 2 Cr. App. R. 18, CA The penalty for contravening of this section is is a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale, an obligatory endorsement and the offence carries between 3 to 9 penalty points. Disqualification is mandatory This is taken from IOM Online The verdict was delivered in court this morning - the senior politician was given a six month conditional discharge, two penalty points on his licence and ordered to pay £500 in costs. I see they really went to town on the sentencing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 The prosecution said his claim he’d pulled out around Mr Walmsley’s parked car couldn’t be true because he’d clipped the car before hitting Mr Walmsley Is there some reason there's no subsequent charge of perjury? If the judge didn't believe he was telling the truth then he must have been lying, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 £500 in costs. OMG. I'm speechless. £500? no no no no no. However that said, knowing that you have caused someones life to completely change is quite sentence enough, its such a shame for all concerned. It'll be a while before he can afford insurance though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sausages Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 As you've noted, you've quoted from the UK road traffic act, which doesn't apply here. Bit of an unfair comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Like The Moon Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 As you've noted, you've quoted from the UK road traffic act, which doesn't apply here. Bit of an unfair comparison. That's why I noted it but isn't Manx Law is more or less based on the UK law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Is there some reason there's no subsequent charge of perjury? If the judge didn't believe he was telling the truth then he must have been lying, right? In view of that should the issue of fitness to hold public office also be considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Like The Moon Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Does this not raise the issue about old people and their tendancy to be quite bad driving -get the fiesta/nissan/Mazda 323 biddy brigade off our roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollag Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Is there some reason there's no subsequent charge of perjury? If the judge didn't believe he was telling the truth then he must have been lying, right? In view of that should the issue of fitness to hold public office also be considered? Could anyone tell when he was last voted for by a member of the public? gotta be 20 years or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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