Wind Turbines

[WTF]

ask yourself, are the government going to give planning permission for items designed to allow you, NOT to buy their expensive electric, which they need you to buy to lessen the huge dept they allowed to happen? and the more who opt out would only put the cost for the rest up. having our own power station is about keeping people in jobs rather than cheaper electric from the undersea cable from the UK. it would have been cheaper to pay off the staff that deal with the generation side of things and never have built the power station. just keep the line maintenance guys on. even the billing could have come from the UK. but instead we have our own expensive job keeping effort, whoopee do. same as bread and milk and eggs etc. and its called an 'economy', yeah , right.

 

That's just pure paranoid bollocks. Can you give one real example of a domestic scale wind turbine being refused planning permission. The use of renewable energy is supported by the planning department for obvious reasons. The only reason that you don't see more them is the cost versus benefit issues that have already been discussed in this topic.

 

 

if everyone had their own means of power production? what use would the mea be?? but the debt would still be there. also any government department would be required to spout possitively about renewable energy for political correctness. the stuff B&Q was selling just augments mains supply and makes you feel good that you're saving a few quid a month but has no real impact, but wanting something that completely free's you from buying electric from the government would be a different issue. the bottom line is that the people will pay the debt either by expensive electric bills or just more tax. it just appears to me that in recent years most government projects cost severely more than budget and don't work as planned which again adds more cost all of which we pay for one way or another. the people at the top can afford their share of the mistakes they give us. and when they can't they award themselves pay increases over the odds, again at our expense.

[triskelion]

if everyone had their own means of power production? what use would the mea be??

 

Well, since it is (at least currently and even with foreseeable technologies) impossible for everyone to generate all their own electricity in a way that isn't ridiculously expensive and involves expensive and difficult to recycle batteries it doesn't really matter.

 

The undersea cable does not have the transmission capacity to supply the whole Island. I think it can manage a constant load of about half what the Pulrose plant currently produces.

 

Of course, the easy way to avoid paying for the MEA's debt is to use less electricity yourself, as it sells excess to the UK, meaning essentially that they pay off the debt. At least to an extent.

 

Mollag (and anyone else, I guess): Check out http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ for more expert (or at least more experienced) information on this sort of thing.

[mollag]

Cheers trisk, im well into heat pumps

[Nitro]

At least it'd be a way of having your own independent electricity, when everyone else has power cuts etc...

[triskelion]

At least it'd be a way of having your own independent electricity, when everyone else has power cuts etc...

 

Unless it is a windless cloudy day. Yeah, you could have batteries, but it would much cheaper and more effective to have a diesel generator for that situation.

[WTF]

its a vicious circle with electricity, the same as petrol. the government needs X amount of money to function, if you use less, the govenment see's a drop in income and puts the prices up to keep the income at a level it needs. 25 years ago, if your car did 30 to the gallon, it was good. nowadays cars are expected to give 40+ to the gallon to make them economical. take diesel specifically, it used to be less than half the cost of petrol, diesel cars become the norm rather than 1 or 2 home builds and the revenue brought in from duty on petrol goes down, answer, put duty on diesel. there is no dodging financing government eventually. if a few people are self sufficient, so what, but if we all were, it's a problem and we would be taxed elsewhere.