Newsbot Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Passenger numbers on a ferry service increase despite controversial timetable changes. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/7147554.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monasqueen Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Passenger numbers on a ferry service increase despite controversial timetable changes. What a load of........ Well of course the numbers would go up - there was no alternative port to go to - if you have to travel on the daytime crossings on Saturdays or Sundays, you have to go to/from Birkenhead. Its hardly rocket science that this would force the figures up! I note the Heysham figures have not been quoted. What was the effect on the overall total? If the choice that we have become used to was still available, i.e. sailings to both ports at weekends, then the figures to both ports would probably increase - after all, we do have an increasing population, and the increase is mostly come-overs who want to maintain their family links across, and take a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Statistics can be hid in many ways says a 100% of people (in this room now) It would be nice to have a ferry link between Ramsey and Whitehaven, although I'm not sure of the distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"V" Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Just shows you can always spin a set of stats to say what you want!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Just shows you can always spin a set of stats to say what you want!!! I can't remember who passed this on to me or even when (old age I guess) but a Police Inspector apparently told an audience that 25% of accidents were caused by drink. So by twisting the context slightly, I suppose you could say that it was safer to drive whilst under the influence p.s, Don't drink and drive, it was just an example of manipulating statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark Twain ( possibly ) There are lies, damned lies and statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Calling the petition organiser or any publicly minded transport group to issue a press release to rebuke this codswallop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Calling the petition organiser or any publicly minded transport group to issue a press release to rebuke this codswallop! Good man Albert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeoneday Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark Twain ( possibly ) There are lies, damned lies and statistics. 76% of statistics are made up anyhow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Agreed with replies so far. What are the criteria for this count? Is it per week, per sailing etc etc. As we are down to two sailings a week from 2 a day before the winter then of course they will be up if its a per sailing count. This Co. are having a laugh with us and our 'government' are letting them get away with it. I looked on the net this morning for 2 of us to foot passenger it to *** Birkenhead on 30th Dec returning on 20th Jan. Although both dates are inconvenient as I prefer midweek the total fare of £72 was ok, just. Not having any plastic, off I go down to the sea terminal to book by which time it was £134. According to the poor sod trying to defend this, the £72 was a 'special offer' which must have expired during my journey to the sea terminal. I hate to think what it would be like with a vehicle booking! I know the airlines do this as they have very restricted numbers and all 50odd plane passengers can't travel for a tenner - that's obvious. The boat has many more seats but the same tricks are applied. Oh I've just remembered that the Ben hasn't got lots of seats as its basically a freight vessel, so they probably price restrict passengers to get them to travel by other means to keep numbers down. Monopolies and all that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 No different to the mish-mash of numbers the airport produces each month. Perhaps the same person, embedded in the DoT, prepares both set of stats? BTW, attributed by Twain (in his autobiography) to Disraeli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Not having any plastic, off I go down to the sea terminal to book by which time it was £134. According to the poor sod trying to defend this, the £72 was a 'special offer' which must have expired during my journey to the sea terminal. I hate to think what it would be like with a vehicle booking! Works both ways on the way down to the sea terminal - I looked on the net for booking with a vehicle and was quoted £244 - got to the sea terminal (as I was meeting someone in town and needed to confirm the dates) - and it was £204 at the sea terminal! Memo to self - check website AND ring up before booking next time. I'm thinking of buying my son shares in the SR for xmas - since he asked Santa for a cowboy outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I think they've done incredibly well... and their rivals on the routes must be absolutely seething! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingRaider Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 What's the betting that the nice Mr Woodward mentions the increase in passenger numbers in his next blog therefore justifying his decision to axe the fast craft sailings to Liverpool (thats the same Mr Woodward that is seriously getting up my nose by continually crowing about the fact that the SuperSeacat wouldn't have sailed each week because of the weather and conveniently forgetting that if SPCO had a proper boat fit for the Irish Sea in winter we wouldn't be in this situation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugger Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Why is the increase in numbers so "pleasing" to the Director of Harbours, "[a]t a time when the winter schedule has been the subject of some adverse comment"? Why should his mood be affected one way or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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