Skeddan Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Come on now - I'm 11/2 on McCain - biggest price in the world, ever. Take it! Someone ? Anyone ? Pleaassee..... Have you tried the www.intrade.com predictions market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Here we go - grab the popcorn http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/us_ele...008/7672978.stm Cheers for the intrade link btw - had a look at that before - nice tool to have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Wtf - McCain is completely disintegrating. Obama far better, far calmer. McC is just waffling and blinking - he's close to being surreal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Surreal - just surreal McCain is desperate, disintegrating, waffling, losing it - must see TV. If you're not watching it now, watch the repeat or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Clear win to Obama I'd say. Looking forward to the various reviews tomorrow - Joe the plumber included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Clear win to Obama I'd say. Looking forward to the various reviews tomorrow - Joe the plumber included Really tired of the anecdotal stuff, it's like a manxforums debate not a presedential one! Mccain comes across as an embittered angry old man, not the calm leader like Obama. The arguments frequently go to Obamas policies not Mccains too. Obama doesn't need to criticise Mccains policies, he just needs to keep supporting his own and let Mccain hang himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I still think it's going to be close. The worlds in such a mess because of the general underestimation of just how stoopid Americans can be. IMO, people are also underestimating the American desire to have balanced politics - e.g. Republicans in the White House - Democrats in the chamber. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I still think it's going to be close. The worlds in such a mess because of the general underestimation of just how stoopid Americans can be. Yes, it still remains to be seen how many will actually put an X in the box for a black man on the day. Good debate last night finally though, they actually faced each other, about time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Too close to the truth? http://www.palinaspresident.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 Just in time for Hop Tu Naa - the Palin face mask http://www.anytimecostumes.com/costumes/mskp.html And what's with the tongue, John? Plus - paddypower doing PR again http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNew...E49F4TZ20081016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Hey John, Touch my big blue dildo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Now that's just asking for some canny photoshopping to move the phallic blue thing in front of his outstretched hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeddan Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 Wtf - McCain is completely disintegrating. Obama far better, far calmer. McC is just waffling and blinking - he's close to being surreal.. I watched the repeat last night. I didn't think McCain completely disintegrated, but wasn't so calm and composed. McCain was clearly pitching in a very different style from Obama - Jo the Plumber, American Dream etc. Much more folksy and simple, while Obama took a more intelligent approach that might be criticised as intellectual and elitist, and 'washington circle'. Some of the waffling might be repetition of simple message. For many American hicks, McCain's style would have far more appeal. Not my thing, and I think McCain pointing and wagging his finger at Obama was a mistake. Also it was possibly a mistake by McCain to say 'when I am president' (arrogant). (and the Jo the Plumber, in touch with the 'ordinary jo' slant became embarrassing). However most of all McCain's blinking stood out for me. In TV age and importance of visual cues and body language, I think this would have done him no good at all. It broke the connection with the viewer, made him appear less confident, competent and in command, and this was particularly so in his closing remarks - addressing the nation, and a taste of what he might be like in a presidential broadcast as it were. By contrast I didn't notice Obama put a foot wrong. As ever he was a star performer, and projecting presidential qualities. There's been quite a few organisational psychology studies of leadership and groups. Particularly in crisis, groups heavily favour someone who projects the typical leadership image which the group is used to. Plans, policies, intelligence, ability etc. have suprisingly little to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 By contrast I didn't notice Obama put a foot wrong. As ever he was a star performer, and projecting presidential qualities. That's what puts me off Obama. He's got all the technical skill of a performer, but his very use of it makes him appear bland and lacking in substance, at least in my eyes. Whenever I see him speak, I'm reminded of Blair - ambition wedded to style, but not much content or inspiration and little to distinguish himself other than the fact he's not the guy everyone wants to get rid of. I'm not much of a fan of McCain these days either, but I just don't understand all the hype about Obama. He strikes me as little more than just another political operator. As for arrogance, not much beats his quasi-state visits to European capitals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinahand Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 However most of all McCain's blinking stood out for me. In TV age and importance of visual cues and body language, I think this would have done him no good at all. It broke the connection with the viewer, made him appear less confident, competent and in command, and this was particularly so in his closing remarks - addressing the nation, and a taste of what he might be like in a presidential broadcast as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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