bluemonday Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Click here or else!!! Leaked document - coercion - made to apply...............all the buzz words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Manx Radio 3 January 2011 Mrs J Corlett, aged 87, of 100 Ballathing Avenue, Douglas was today sentenced to 200 hours community service by Deputy High Bailiff Monty Boil. Mrs Corlett had refused to register, when so instructed, for her Identity Card. Sentencing Mrs Corlett ,Mr Boil stated: "Anyone who refuses to register with the National Identity Scheme immediately arouses the suspicion of the authorities." He continued: "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" and pointed out that the secure Identity Database in India was "Accredited to the highest internationals standards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Manx Radio3 January 2011 Mrs J Corlett, aged 87, of 100 Ballathing Avenue, Douglas was today sentenced to 200 hours community service by Deputy High Bailiff Monty Boil. Mrs Corlett had refused to register, when so instructed, for her Identity Card. Sentencing Mrs Corlett ,Mr Boil stated: "Anyone who refuses to register with the National Identity Scheme immediately arouses the suspicion of the authorities." He continued: "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" and pointed out that the secure Identity Database in India was "Accredited to the highest internationals standards" 'But...But...But...I', said Mrs Corlett as she was led away - and was immediately re-arrested for being racist by taking the piss out of indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 This is the leaked document apparently, and an assessment of what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderstruck Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 I heard they wanted the ID cards to fail : Bio chip here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeddan Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Interesting document Albert T. Looking at the objectives, it seems most of the 'fundamental' things could be done with a Passport - and probably better suited to that. Maybe it makes sense to have optional identity cards for young people (to buy stuff in shops, or get kids priced tickets), but why go to all the cost and bother of wanting compulsory id cards when there are cheaper and easier ways of meeting objectives (without doubling up on things like passports). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Interesting document Albert T. Looking at the objectives, it seems most of the 'fundamental' things could be done with a Passport - and probably better suited to that. Maybe it makes sense to have optional identity cards for young people (to buy stuff in shops, or get kids priced tickets), but why go to all the cost and bother of wanting compulsory id cards when there are cheaper and easier ways of meeting objectives (without doubling up on things like passports). The problem of encouraging the young to take up the ID cards is that they then accept the intrusion into their private lives. The passport is suitable for any travel document or for proof of identity for a bank account. The only thing you would still need to be aware of is the RFID chip in them which can be read at distance so someone could have a reader within the airport and capture everyones data......(Remote Frequency ID chip = RFID) you could always wrap it in tin foil to block the signal, bet that would be interesting going through the security X-Ray machine! An ID card would also become something you would need to carry with you, which you wouldn't do with the passport in case you lost it, imagine all that data that could be lost if you misplaced your wallet/purse or worse it was stolen! There is a lot of money in identity theft and if they put in a RFID chip in the credit card sized ID card, we could all become electronically cloned and identities sold on............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai_Droid Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 The problem of encouraging the young to take up the ID cards is that they then accept the intrusion into their private lives. You're assuming that's a problem? You're talking about a generation that photographs and publishes every aspect of their lives on facebook and blog sites, what makes you think they give a fuck about their name and address on an ID card? The passport is suitable for any travel document or for proof of identity for a bank account. The only thing you would still need to be aware of is the RFID chip in them which can be read at distance so someone could have a reader within the airport and capture everyones data......(Remote Frequency ID chip = RFID) you could always wrap it in tin foil to block the signal, bet that would be interesting going through the security X-Ray machine! An ID card would also become something you would need to carry with you, which you wouldn't do with the passport in case you lost it, imagine all that data that could be lost if you misplaced your wallet/purse or worse it was stolen! There is a lot of money in identity theft and if they put in a RFID chip in the credit card sized ID card, we could all become electronically cloned and identities sold on............. RFID passports contain a mesh in the sleeve, so the rfid can only be read when the passport is opened. Even then the operating range is about 20 inches. Even if you could clone it, as it contains biometric information linking the data to the user, what would be the point? The data's also digitally signed, so can't be altered. That aside, some rfid applications have a PK like authentication, that hasn't been beaten, so this is all theoretical. The USA's been using these for a couple of years, and despite a lot of attention, it hasn't been knowingly cracked. This aside, again, you need some perspective. It's quite common for fiancial service businesses to have copies of passports for investors. Traditional passports without biometrics (other than the signature) are very easy to clone, not from 20 inches away with a propriatory scanner, but from any distance. Why aren't you flapping about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 The problem of encouraging the young to take up the ID cards is that they then accept the intrusion into their private lives. You're assuming that's a problem? You're talking about a generation that photographs and publishes every aspect of their lives on facebook and blog sites, what makes you think they give a fuck about their name and address on an ID card? I think it is about choice. I can put my details on facebook because it is my choice, but would not give permission for my details to put placed on an ID card. If and when they are introduced and made compulsory then may be a time when the next generation are far less uneasy about having the ID cards simply because they are not accustomer to not having one. But that is a problem as we should no be complacent about these government intrusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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