Newsbot Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The number of serious accidents during the TT races is "worrying", a senior Isle of Man police officer says. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/7445847.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 So, not race accidents then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2blade Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 So, not race accidents then. ^^^ what he said i think it was the road rider/racer wannabe morons the article is referring too. we saw some truely apaling riding and driving while we where there for the TT, seems alot of people get off the ferry and just treat the whole island as there own private race track...forgeting that everday life still goes on with children off school and normal everyday traffic on the road it's this sort of thing that will cause an end the TT imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 They should take the number of bikes on our roads during the fortnight and equate it to the number for the same amount in London, Cardiff or Stuttgart, for example. Only then can they blame the TT fortnight for the accidents. A totally false piece of reporting in my humble opinion. Miles ridden x number of bikes -:- (how do you get the division sign up?) accidents. I bet we do rather well after that equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Right - here it is in a fucking nut shell for you "If it was a music festival and 5 people died every year - it would have been stopped years ago - FULL STOP" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambon Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Right - here it is in a fucking nut shell for you "If it was a music festival and 5 people died every year - it would have been stopped years ago - FULL STOP" Erm, not quite. People die getting to and from Glastonbury every year. They die getting to and from the Chelsea flower show every year. Those festivals still go on. People die in racing every year, all over the place. Did you know that during practice for the BSB at Mallory last year someone died? Someone died a Oulton Park a few year ago too. They were reported but it was not sensationalised because he was not particularly famous and it was not the TT. These were "Sterile" tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Right - here it is in a fucking nut shell for you "If it was a music festival and 5 people died every year - it would have been stopped years ago - FULL STOP" Maybe the poor folks who had accidents were here for the Status Quo Music festival! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanxfella Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 How can they say they are worried about the actual death toll but then say the death toll was "At least 3". Its either 3 or its more than 3 isn't it? Why go for an "At least" figure? Are they trying to make the stats look quite not so bad by being vague as to what the statistics actually were? It had to be 4 or more just going off the news reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 How can they say they are worried about the actual death toll but then say the death toll was "At least 3". Its either 3 or its more than 3 isn't it? Why go for an "At least" figure? Are they trying to make the stats look quite not so bad by being vague as to what the statistics actually were? It had to be 4 or more just going off the news reports. they use the 'at least' option if someone is still alive, but critically ill with a questionable survival chance. when the bike went into the police car near alpine they kept the road closed for ages and treated the scene like a fatal accident scene even though no one was actually dead at the time but one of the riders was in a poor way with a slim chance of survival. which unfortunately turned out to be the case. but i agree with the news bit, 4 for deffo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatopian Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Unfortunately where people take significant risks on bikes moving at high speed on open roads there are going to be fatalities. Sadly it's a few reckless bikers making it disproportionately more dangerous for the rest, who just want to have a good time. No need for draconian restrictions on the many next year - all I ask of the police is to do their best (as every year) to weed out the few before they kill themselves or, more importantly, others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Yeah, sorry about that little crazy moment heehee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxy Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 With all these negative comments about the place, whether it's from the Police, public, media etc, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that the TT will finish in a few years time, probably in 2011 as it's the Centenary of the Mountain Course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeky boy Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 People die hill walking in Scotland every year, people die in diving accidents, caving accidents, horse-riding etc People getting killed whilst racing in the TT or riding beyond their limits on public roads is no different The only major difference would be if someone was killed going about their normal business and not involved in any way in the event. A tragedy of this nature could well put an end to the TT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parchedpeas Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Right - here it is in a fucking nut shell for you "If it was a music festival and 5 people died every year - it would have been stopped years ago - FULL STOP" Erm, not quite. People die getting to and from Glastonbury every year. They die getting to and from the Chelsea flower show every year. Those festivals still go on. People die in racing every year, all over the place. Did you know that during practice for the BSB at Mallory last year someone died? Someone died a Oulton Park a few year ago too. They were reported but it was not sensationalised because he was not particularly famous and it was not the TT. These were "Sterile" tracks. But this is not GETTING to the festival. This is THE FESTIVAL. It is dangerous. It is an anachronism. And it will end, soon. If it was still a major tournament that people gave a monkeys about I could see it carrying on - some of these lunatic traditions do - but it is a non-event in the biking world, a non event in the sporting world. If it wasn't the only nail the Tourism Department could hang their coats on, it would have ended years ago. The TT Festival, properly managed, should have been moved away from racing years ago. Money should have been put into the biking scene and away from the death trap that is the mountain circuit. A festival, with classic bikes, fan-led events and good 'non-fan' acts could have changed the ethos of the TT and made it more about a celebration of the art, rather than the art itself. Instead, what we'll end up with is a race event that gets cancelled, and nothing in its place because of the piss-poor motorhead management in charge of the event as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 People die hill walking in Scotland every year, people die in diving accidents, caving accidents, horse-riding etc People getting killed whilst racing in the TT or riding beyond their limits on public roads is no different But it is, since reckless riding on public roads poses a possible threat to others who aren't directly involved. The activities you cite don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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