Reasons Not To Carry A Donor Card - No1

[Lonan3]

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A man who suffered a heart attack in Paris woke up just as surgeons were about to remove his organs for donation.

 

Doctors called in transplant surgeons after failing to resuscitate the 45-year old man, reports Le Monde newspaper.

 

According to a report by the Paris University hospital's ethics committee, doctors continued providing a heart massage for an hour and a half while they waited for the surgeons to arrive.

 

When the surgeons began operating on the man to remove his organs, he began to breathe, his pupils became responsive and he reacted to a pain test.

 

"After a few weeks chequered with serious complications, the patient is now walking and talking," said the report. It is not known whether the man is aware of how close he was to losing his organs.

[jimbms]

Thats understandable, him being French they presumed him brain dead.

[ai_Droid]

Pedantic I know, but the doner card probably saved him. If they hadn't kept his circulation going to make the organs more viable, he'd have not been revived.

[Miss Take]

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A man who suffered a heart attack in Paris woke up just as surgeons were about to remove his organs for donation.

 

Doctors called in transplant surgeons after failing to resuscitate the 45-year old man, reports Le Monde newspaper.

 

According to a report by the Paris University hospital's ethics committee, doctors continued providing a heart massage for an hour and a half while they waited for the surgeons to arrive.

 

When the surgeons began operating on the man to remove his organs, he began to breathe, his pupils became responsive and he reacted to a pain test.

 

"After a few weeks chequered with serious complications, the patient is now walking and talking," said the report. It is not known whether the man is aware of how close he was to losing his organs.

 

Selective quoting of the report there, Lonan3 - I'm disappointed in you

 

The rest quotes:-

Emergency service staff interviewed in the report said they knew of other situations where "a person who everyone was convinced was dead survived after prolonged re-animation moves well beyond usual time frames or even those considered reasonable."

 

They pointed out that if they had followed the rules to the letter, such patients "would probably have been considered deceased."

 

In other words, without a donor card, this man would likely have died.

[Lonan3]

Selective quoting of the report there, Lonan3 - I'm disappointed in you

 

The rest quotes:-

Emergency service staff interviewed in the report said they knew of other situations where "a person who everyone was convinced was dead survived after prolonged re-animation moves well beyond usual time frames or even those considered reasonable."

 

They pointed out that if they had followed the rules to the letter, such patients "would probably have been considered deceased."

 

In other words, without a donor card, this man would likely have died.

 

Or does it, perhaps, suggest that 'the rules' are not really sufficient to prevent such mistakes happening?

And, if that is the case, does it not make it something of a lottery - dependent on the determination (or otherwise) of those involved?

[Chinahand]

Not quite clear what rules you want changing and to prevent what?

 

They continued keeping the blood circulating etc long after they'd have normally stopped - but it is unreasonable to say you have to continue CPR or whatever for such long periods routinely.

 

In the vast majority they'd just be doing CPR to a corpse.

 

I agree with ai droid and Miss Take - IF he hadn't carried a card, CPR would have stopped, he'd have been taken to the morgue and rapidly congealed - zero chance of resusication. Because he had a card they kept him oxygenated and a fluke recovery occurred - because of the rules and proceedures this was recognised and he was saved.

 

Definitely a reason to carry a card!