bluemonday Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Clicky Runway - loads of money Roundabouts - loads of money Rehab......0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Pathetic isn't it. MHKs need to get these priorities sorted, instead of wasting millions on grandeous schemes most of which we don't need or are not necessary. What will make the island an unpleasant place to live in future, will be the failure to deal with the drug and alcohol associated social problems and incidents that are now starting to become rife over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Whilst not necessarily questioning the capacity of Government to spend money on projects of questionable value, its important to remember that the unit would have to be funded out of the departmental budget, not the capital budget. The capital budget itself is generally allocated on a year by year basis, but they don't become publicly debated until they are due to go before Tynwald, often a week before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Whilst not necessarily questioning the capacity of Government to spend money on projects of questionable value, its important to remember that the unit would have to be funded out of the departmental budget, not the capital budget. The capital budget itself is generally allocated on a year by year basis, but they don't become publicly debated until they are due to go before Tynwald, often a week before. The need for such a centre has been talked about for years. Any hiding behind accountaneering doesn't cut it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Its not going to happen - yet again this year - until a(nother) budget increase for the DHSS is found. Maybe next year Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcCann Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Pathetic isn't it. MHKs need to get these priorities sorted, instead of wasting millions on grandeous schemes most of which we don't need or are not necessary. What will make the island an unpleasant place to live in future, will be the failure to deal with the drug and alcohol associated social problems and incidents that are now starting to become rife over here. Hey. Moving the fire station to a place where it will be blocked in (either by road closures or parked cars/bikes blocking the road) during the TT is far more important than such things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Its not going to happen until a(nother) budget increase for the DHSS is found. Maybe next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Perhaps there's an opportunity for private and public funding to work together. The island could be a perfect location for a properly resourced rehab unit - somewhere in the countryside where visiting 'celebs' would have a reasonable degree of privacy (and little temptation to stray since the 'entertainment' centres are rubbish) - with the government supplying the land and assisting with the building and/or conversion costs in return for a Health Service facility as part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Perhaps there's an opportunity for private and public funding to work together... Sounds like a good idea to me. But it would involve someone getting off their arse and doing something, so likely to be unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryMcCann Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Perhaps there's an opportunity for private and public funding to work together. The island could be a perfect location for a properly resourced rehab unit - somewhere in the countryside where visiting 'celebs' would have a reasonable degree of privacy (and little temptation to stray since the 'entertainment' centres are rubbish) - with the government supplying the land and assisting with the building and/or conversion costs in return for a Health Service facility as part of the deal. They asked Amy Winehouse but she said No No No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Perhaps there's an opportunity for private and public funding to work together... It is interesting to see how the MHKs decide on behalf of their employers when it comes to a choice between capital expenditure on social issues and transport. Maybe we should legalise (and tax) some other social drugs in addition to nicotine and alcohol to fund rehab. How much capital is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman8180 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 The 'capital' would be peanuts. £2 - £3 million could have you a fantastic facility. It's the continued running costs that would mount up. Still, as AT says it's these problems that will be a far greater burden for the next generations to bear, than having to wait an extra 5 minutes at the fucking QB. Why can't those in power see sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 It is interesting to see how the MHKs decide on behalf of their employers when it comes to a choice between capital expenditure on social issues and transport. Maybe we should legalise (and tax) some other social drugs in addition to nicotine and alcohol to fund rehab. How much capital is needed? This isn't a capital project, this is ongoing Departmental funding of almost £500 000 a year, which is a substantial amount to find. EDIT: The facility is built, the department just can't afford to run an in-patient facility at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immortalpuppet Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Shhhh, they dont know there is a problem over here, its much easier to bury ones head in the dirty sand and fund things that are not really a great deal of help to the people that live in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 This isn't a capital project, this is ongoing Departmental funding of almost £500 000 a year, which is a substantial amount to find. A fairly small cull of the civil service should sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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