Newsbot Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 A new airport air traffic control tower is to be built in the Isle of Man following Tynwald approval. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/7519492.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste1205 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Another box ticked on Ann Reynolds CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I note that the local MHK, Cregeen had concerns about the finances again but still voted for it. One of the good old boys !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Collective Responsibility General Principles 1.27 Collective responsibility has the following features: (1) A Minister may speak against any proposal in the Council of Ministers, but he must subsequently either support the policy decided upon or resign. (2) Where the policy of a particular Minister is being challenged, it is the Council of Ministers as a whole which is being challenged. Thus, the defeat of a Minister on a major issue represents a defeat for Council. .......read in full (3) Every Minister must be prepared to support all Council of Ministers’ decisions both inside and outside Tynwald, the House of Keys and Legislative Council (4) Collective Responsibility does not apply to a Minister’s responsibility for his personal mistakes. (5) Any major shift of policy proposed by a Minister must be cleared by the Council of Ministers before it is announced. One of the good old boys for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Fuel prices rising, air travel figures dropping, lets buy a new runway and tower! There's no way this justifies the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 One of the reasons given is that they can't see some of the parking areas and buildings from the tower, didn't occur to them when they were building said buildings and parking areas. Someone needs to find some answers before this bunch of fools bankrupt each and everyone of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 One of the reasons given is that they can't see some of the parking areas and buildings from the tower, didn't occur to them when they were building said buildings and parking areas.Someone needs to find some answers before this bunch of fools bankrupt each and everyone of us. CCTV, jebus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaldestination Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 From CAP670 - Air Traffic Services Safety Requirements "The use of electronic aids such as SMR or Closed Circuit Television (CCTV) to enhance the view from the VCR will only be considered for approval in exceptional circumstances." As as to whether the building is needed or not, Juan Turner MLC summed it up very well during the Tynwald debate: "We are dealing with highly-skilled professional people who are working in that building, and yet the facilities are probably the poorest that I have ever witnessed in any of the Government buildings that I have gone round. When you think about the Emergency Services Control Room, and then you compare it to air traffic control, which is dealing with the safety of thousands of lives, the two buildings are a million miles away from each other in terms of facilities." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Apparently they have to go upstairs for a piss. Maybe if they moved into the karsey they could see further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Collective Responsibility General Principles 1.27 Collective responsibility has the following features: (1) A Minister may speak against any proposal in the Council of Ministers, but he must subsequently either support the policy decided upon or resign. (2) Where the policy of a particular Minister is being challenged, it is the Council of Ministers as a whole which is being challenged. Thus, the defeat of a Minister on a major issue represents a defeat for Council. .......read in full (3) Every Minister must be prepared to support all Council of Ministers’ decisions both inside and outside Tynwald, the House of Keys and Legislative Council (4) Collective Responsibility does not apply to a Minister’s responsibility for his personal mistakes. (5) Any major shift of policy proposed by a Minister must be cleared by the Council of Ministers before it is announced. One of the good old boys for sure. That's how a Government works - Policy is decided then brought before the legislature for debate and approval/blocking. Of course, in the Isle of Man, the debate takes place at secret presentations before being approved by Tynwald, but that isn't really a fault of the ministerial system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Ayres Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Classic party politics, but then we don't have any of that here do we? I couldn't have given a better example of the whip system used by every political party the world over. Admit it, we've had party politics for 1000 years but everybody denies it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Didn't the ministerial system only come in in the 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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