simon Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Same as BBC World Service. Who pays for that? The Foreign Office pays for BBC World Service radio - from direct taxation. The TV station is commercially funded - foreign pay tv broadcasters choose to buy in its services. The TV version provides spaces for local advertising. The BBC World Service is not paid for from the licence fee. National programmes broadcast on BBC World are paid for via internal budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack from Laxey Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 Do we really want the BBC, yes the BBC, telling the World our news? In their own inimitable way? Just think how they have served us, news wise and publicity wise over the years.... I bet Richard came out of that meeting with a huge smile on his face and thinking he had really beaten the BBC into submission. ....I bet the BBC deal makers are still laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Well Jack, I think you'd need to express more your problem with BBC reporting. You aren't really saying what you would like to see. Historically - the very neutrality and seriousness of the BBC has always meant that it is subject to criticism. Traditionally the left thought the BBC to be right wing / conservative where as the the right, and old style conservatives, saw it as leftist or even socialist. I think that the truth is that the BBC tends to try to be objective. I think it has a long history in that position. Though it's obviously impossible to be genuinely objective, always. But I think that the BBC tries very hard to be objective. And I think that they mostly get it almost right. I'd be surprised if it could be done better. Even over the past few weeks we've seen that the UK media has done a better job of reporting the IOM than the local media has managed. They haven't got everything right. But they've already reported with less bias (or missing bits) than the local media has managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_iom Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I remember hearing on Manx Radio that they wanted to start taking BBC news rather than the presented operator. Is that going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack from Laxey Posted December 19, 2004 Author Share Posted December 19, 2004 Well Simon, nicely put. Irrespective though, can you imagine the reactions from here when the BBC are given control of a large part of our news and publicity output. Something our government, well at least the former CM, has handed them on a plate. In fact almost insisted they do, it seems. edit to change if/when , were/are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the mask Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Has anyone ever seen a job advertised for local people to man the TV license dodger detector vehicle that visits the island? Do the people that come here to do the checks have work permits? Would they require them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Has anyone ever seen a job advertised for local people to man the TV license dodger detector vehicle that visits the island? Do the people that come here to do the checks have work permits? Would they require them?Granted that this is an issue with respect to the issue of local "work permits" (if such a system is even internationally legitimate in the longer term). But is this really an issue with respect to the good and accurate reporting of local news? My personal opinion would be that such an issue, in this context, would distract us from proper issues relating to the good and accurate reporting of local social, political and economic news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 I think that was just a rather poor troll on MITM's behalf Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 what is MITM? EDIT: okay just sussed. It's 'Man In The Mask'. And my previous post didn't really say what I meant it to. But I'm off to my bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 Man in the mask - there, you've made me type it out in full now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man in the mask Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Sorry, Mission, I forgot you were the Simon Callow of Troll judging. There again, I might wish to be the Simon Callow of Moderator judging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parchedpeas Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Manx Radio is in no position to take over the news coverage to the Isle of Man. They want to believe they are impartial like the BBC, but they would never dare run some of the stories criticisising the government that the Beeb woulld run. They are too intertwined with the government because of the (hefty) subsidy. Local news and programming should have been a requirement of ALL of the radio stations broadcasting here, and Manx Radio should have been left to fund itself through advertising. If that meant that one of the stations would bite the dust, then so be it. It would probably have been Manx Radio that would be the first to go - watch their audience figures plummet now there is serious competition on the scene. It would be perfectly legal for us all to not pay the licence fee if the IOMG had not passed a law saying we must do it - why can't they just turn around to the BBC and say 'stuff it - you're getting nothing till you supply a local service?'. A few pages on a website is hardly a 'local service' is it? The BBC respond by saying that because of the geographic of the Island, it costs a disproportionate amount of money to place and run the transmitters over here. But they do it for the Highlands and Islands without questions, and THEY get a local service. We've been fleeced for years over this, and teh IOMG's complicity with the BBC has always been pathetic. Our government does nthing more than read the UK Hansard and copy what the others do. When will we 'USE' our independence to some advantage other than that enjoyed by the BIG BUSINESSES. When will Joe Local get anything out of being Manx Based save for a tax break that is more than made up for by the more expensive cost of living (milk, bread, broadband etc). Bit off topic in parts, but the BBC thing symptomises what a waste of time our government really are. A proper government would have made a stand on this ages ago - either got a rebate out of the BBC, got local services funded and or introduced via the licence fee, or stopped paying it. Not carried on as normal and waited for the BBC to give us 25kb of webspace to put the cinema listings in and hailed it as a 'triumph'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_iom Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 I think we need ITV to announce a local opt out from Border. I bet there would suddenly be an interest in us. Just look at the Channel Islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parchedpeas Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 removed because it was rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyBoiler Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 One thing that really annoys me is the amount of advetising the BBC do on their channels. Why should i have to sit through adverts about BBC 2, 3, 4 and so on when they wont provide Freeview on the island. The number of times i have been watching telly and see a great programme advertised and thought, good will watch that tonight. Only to then realise its on a Freeview BBC channel. BBC, please stop it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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