hollandaise Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Thanks for that, Stav. You see, I KNEW Bill had a beard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posters Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Why have a six-pack when you can have a barrel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hollandaise Tensions are running very high over here at present,what with world events. Perhaps the ladies timing was poor, i don't know. If she had met with community leaders to discuss the play,she may have seen thier view point and perhaps come to some kind of balance, to get her message/feelings across without causing offence. My fears would be, various sections of the community presuming all sikh men were the same. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Three points to answer: 1. I don't live in Holland - I presume that's what you meant by 'over here', as though I couldn't comprehend world events where I live. In actual fact, I live within 45 minutes of Birmingham Rep. The nickname refers to something quite different! 2. The theatre did consult the Sikh community long before the play opened. The Sikh leaders asked for some textual changes. They got them. They asked for the setting (ie a temple) to be changed. The theatre refused. So they asked to read out an announcement instead before the curtain went up. The theatre agreed. Then the Sikhs turned up in their hundreds and began to stone people coming out of the performance. Seems a little extreme, doesn't it? Not to mention ILLEGAL! 2. I am astonished by your fear that people might watch this play and think 'all sikh men were the same'. Utterly astonished. Be honest. How many plays, on screen and stage, depict white British men in a bad light? Do we (or indeed members of other cultures) watch them and believe that all white British men must be the same? If so, these must be the same people who send flowers and sympathy cards when soap opera characters die. Look, if you can't see a classic case of bullying when it's staring you in the face, then ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hollandaise....Carter living in Holland! Over here means the UK! Most theatre go-ers are a decent bunch of folk, i'm sure the majority who have seen the play would not think for a minute that all sikh men were the same. What i was trying to refer to, was organisations like the BNP. I've no doubt they will archive the news clips, of the violent scenes and use them later in some form of broadcast to promote thier party or recruitment. I'm on your side! The events after the play were inexcusable. Hollandaise, with respect would you feel the same if a sikh male had written the play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandaise Posted December 22, 2004 Author Share Posted December 22, 2004 Hollandaise, with respect would you feel the same if a sikh male had written the play? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, absolutely not. I would still feel angry, naturally, that a writer had been gagged. (Though I'm relieved to think the play may still play elsewhere - not without similar protests, I'm sure!) But as a woman, and as a writer myself, my sense of identification with a female writer in that position is extremely strong. Hence all the teeth & claws. But I'm a sweet little pussy in real life. Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Thanks...was a bit worried that it was a bit of a 'female' thing. Well done for having the courage to present the topic. Keep up the good work 'Duck'...as they say in Stoke-on-trent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mission Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Looks like that second theatre has decided to pull out too:- link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Keep up the good work 'Duck'...as they say in Stoke-on-trent! In my experience the only word stokies say ending in "uck" begins with an F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kite Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hollandaise, with respect would you feel the same if a sikh male had written the play? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> carter, with respect would you ask such a thing if a man had written the play and a man had posted this forum topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollandaise Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 carter, with respect would you ask such a thing if a man had written the play and a man had posted this forum topic? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Now we're talking! (Sound of knives being sharpened in the background ... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posters Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 ........with respect would .......... With all due respect, why do people who use that phrase very rarely mean that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I respect what you are saying there but really you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hollandaise, with respect would you feel the same if a sikh male had written the play? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> carter, with respect would you ask such a thing if a man had written the play and a man had posted this forum topic? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes i believe i would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skig Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Should be on BBC2 as a follow up to the Jerry Springer opera !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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