spanna Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 well mo didnt review the game. his comments were on the demo.. which is the build from july i think. lots of people who have been hammering fifa are saying they are completely bored of it already.. theres no fun in it . everything seems totally scripted etc.. the only good thing is the online 10 v 10. im just praying to death that pes has no lag online. everything elsse is in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Crazy Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 PES 2009 feels far too arcadey for me. Compared to FIFA 09 it just seems dated. Hopefully PES 2009 the full game proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaefell050 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I have found PES to be quite "arcade" as well, FIFA is at least 3x more realistic (SFX, graphics, player looks etc). FIFA 09 it is for me this year. Oh and for next year, will it be FIFA 10 or FIFA 010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Sorry but sfx, graphics and players lookalikey are bottom of my list in a footy game. Its gameplay and controls that are the most important and pes is years ahead of fifa again imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Crazy Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 IMO the PES brand has gone stale while FIFA has been working on their game play as well as adding to other departments which were already good. PES 2009 feels like PES 5/6 with better graphics, some might say this is a good thing but we're next gen now. Where's the improvement? It will be interesting to see what Konami do with PES 2010 as FIFA are close to having the complete game. This better not be on the full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Early internet chatter coming out about PES2009 from people who have already got the FULL game are good and it looks like the majority of problems in the demo are sorted. I'm glad I waited now. Here's one, it's a bit lengthy but it covers a lot of points most of which are backed up by others who have the game: Hi all I live in Istanbul, Pes 2009 hit the shelves here yesterday and got my Copy right away at 19:00 pm yesterday. Without a break I played till 05:00 AM and slept for only 2 hours before coming to Work.. I checked all features of game.. I’ll list u both features that I point out and differences between demo & full release…. (BTW I can be deemed as PES veteran, I’m 28 years old, and from PS1 to PS3 I played all versions of PES and Winning eleven series) Here are features.. GRAFIX: Unbelieveably improved: 1- Try to make an exhibition match at AFTERNOON.. Lightings are definetely next-gen.. I sometimes assumed that I’m watching a real match on TV.. 2- RAIN: OMG OMG, best rain in all gaming history.. YOu’ll get what I mean.. PLayer reactions, and Ball physics changes entirely due to wet field.. I’m really shocked when I saw… 3- Stadiums are great, especially in-game … If anyone who claims FIFA has beter in-game grafix after playing PES 09 full release ( Try AFTERNOON matches especially) , I call him blind.. 4- BALLS Especially ( No:7- demo Claw Ball and NO:9- White Puma ball) feels realistic as never seen before in any soccer game… 5- Nets, Boots all small details seem great.. GAMEPLAY & AI: OMG, Demo & Full RElease COMPLETELY different… HEre are diffrences.. In Full release; -AI reactions to the ball tweaked: When a long ball comes from a distance, AI definetely doesn’t know what to do in DEmo.. IN full Game there is no hesitation for AI, no more bouncing no more just looking.. -Opponent AI don’t use LOng through balls behind ur defence line Too much.. Only good passing ability and visionery players can send… IF u compare with the demo .. IT is more & more great in full release -NO more needless Back-heel passes from your players unless u want them to make… They can use their weak foot instead of making back-heel passes a lot in demo… -There are a lot foul and falling animations are added when u compare with demo.. I saw a lot new shooting/player falling/passing animations that I’ve never seen in demo ( I did at least 300-400 matches in demo btw) -Shooting is tweaked: no more floating shots.. I saw great hard strikes Especially to the balls which bounces back from defence.. -GOALKEEPERS are tweaked .. for at least 10 years of PES&WE experience, maybe the best goalkeepers. IN many occasions They can hold the ball instead of parrying.. -Running ANIMATIONS CHANGED : No more PES 2008 style bizzarre running animations.. Even in demo it disturbed me a lot.. I was too happy that they were removed.. -Corners are tweaked..: No more difficulties to SELECLT and clear the ball.. Even Goalkeeper in corners are more sensitive.. By pressing triangle.. they are more strict comes and holds the bal lor punch it out.. But They don’t punch the ball that they can hold.. Thats great improvement.. -HEading animations: HEading is completely diffrenet from the demo version.. You’ll get what I mean as u play the full game.. YOu have the ability to send ball more strictly to the player that you want.. And animations looks great… Even in Full version I didnt see any NO-look jumps and heading with back of head.. -AI defence is great.. They are trying to close gaps as much as possible.. That makes the game even more realistic.. I made many 20-minutes mathces.. And the most goals that I’ve seen was 2-2 ( Atletic Bilbao-Villareal).. I had two 0-0 s ( Genoa-Lecce, Basel-IFK Goteborg)… -No more one-man teams.. Ronaldo takes it and runs to the byline , no one can take the ball, even touch the ball while he is dribbling in every situation.. THAT is COMPLETELY over.. -Pace differences can be seen.. Ex.. in a position Rossi from Villareal came and pass a Atlethic Bilbao defender by coming 1 meter behind at a long ball.. I really shocked when I saw.. and watched the replay 3-4 times.. ONLINE: I played two matches.. OMG it is too smooth when u compare to PES2008.. BAL: I didn’t have to time to look at it yet, as u know the most beatiful food always get eaten at last.. CONS (NEGATIVES) OK so many people requested me to write CONS too.. here they are what I found.. -lack of camera tilting -sometimes players tend to head the ball instead of volleying.. -In edit mode, no "short Socks" is avaliable.. -player ratings are inconsistent at the end of matches -assists with manual passing, is not in assist sheet again.. - diving is again pointless, I always get booked even if I think I was successfull Conclusion: Everyone was (PES)ismistic for PES09, as I read from forums.. Everyone had complaints. OK I have to admit I was anxious too, and didnt love the demo ALOT.. Demo was graphically medicore- lil but disturbing errors amid gameplay etc… But when I got the full game, OMG OMG … IT likes a different game not tweaks and improvements only….. The DEMO and THE FINAL BUILDS are completely different.. You’ll see what I mean in 2-3 days at most… I have a lot of Works to do right now everyone asks something right now and I’m trying to POST this.. everyone can wait but PES no.. I only slept 2 hours but I’m confident, I’m happy within.. I’ll think of going back to home and playing PES tonight.. I’m sure many of u that swears KONAMI , will regret in many cases when u try the final game. I can see the forthcoming apologize mails to Seabass and Konami in these forums.. But people are always PESimistic as I said they can find somehing to complain about IGn gave the game a 8.5 , At first I thought that this is a good score, but after playing the final game.. no it worths more… YOU ALL WILL GET WHAT I MEAN in 2 days.. P.S: PLease don’t hesitate to ask anything that u wanna learn.. AS much as I can find timw from my work today, I’ll check and try to write back as much as possible.. Ohh my god I forgot to add something.. I tried CHANTS yesterday.. That was awesome.. My favorite team is Besiktas.. I found many chants of my team in mp3. format.. Then I merged it and formed a big MP3 file.. and imported it to the game.. It was 9 min. Mp3.. and it was great in the match.. Atmoshpere was awesome.. I conceeded a goal while I was amazed of chants beuty... HOW TO MERGE MP3 FILES to a single MP3 FILE: -windows start menu - RUN -write cmd and go to DOS mode.. - put merge requested mp3 files to C: and name them as 1 , 2 , 3 - then in dos mode (c:\) write copy/b 1.mp3+2.mp3+3.mp3+4.mp3 FINAL.MP3 ... - it is finished.. go and listen to FINAL.mp3.. all merged.. you can merge any files in same format (mp3/mpeg etc..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 RAIN: OMG OMG, best rain in all gaming history I stopped reading right there, he's ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey magic Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 RAIN: OMG OMG, best rain in all gaming history I stopped reading right there, he's ten. ha ha have to agree who cares what the rain looks like only thing that sounded appealing in that was you could stick chants on which is great being able to upload "viva john terry" & "without killing anyone" still i'm stickin with me FIFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'm not arsed at all, if ProEvo's the better game when it comes out, i'll get it. But at the moment i'm more than happy with fifa, i thought the pro evo demo was appalling, graphics do matter, licenses don't, presentation and accessability does too, i thought the menu system on the demo looked like a migraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Lots of worrying reports coming out about pes online. Konami have said they are patching it tomorrow! looks like its the good old pes patch tastic again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I didnt need to worry.. it is the best pro evo EVER! no lag online at all. My mate has both fifa and pes and hasnt touched fifa since getting pes. Says it all. Why konami released that demo i have no idea the game is so much better in every single area. The demo isnt a reflection on the final game at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mo beats experience Posted October 19, 2008 Author Share Posted October 19, 2008 I didnt need to worry.. it is the best pro evo EVER! no lag online at all. My mate has both fifa and pes and hasnt touched fifa since getting pes. Says it all. Why konami released that demo i have no idea the game is so much better in every single area. The demo isnt a reflection on the final game at all. I've heard reports the lag is as bad as last year, from reading forums it seems anyways. Might hire it see what i think, pretty glued to the Be a Pro 10-a-side online though, its fucking ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Crazy Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was playing this in Zavvi & it had so many bugs. Perfectly good slide tackles resulted in yellows, reds & penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted October 19, 2008 Share Posted October 19, 2008 I was playing this in Zavvi & it had so many bugs. Perfectly good slide tackles resulted in yellows, reds & penalties. And Fifa 2009 doesn't have bugs (side step like a retard) and online lag? One man's meat is another man's poison I guess. I like PES 2009 and was suprised after the demo, its what all my mates play as well and they've opted for it too this year after playing both. As we all get together and have a few matches that's where I'm staying. I've played Fifa a good bit and it has improved loads, but definatley a marmite game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanna Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 All the reports of lag seem to have come before the release date which konami said they hadnt switched on the servers properly by friday. I have played 10 games online, even on the german server and have seen no lag at all. I havent even found a player on a green connection yet. im playing against yellow connection players everytime and theres no lag. Be a legend mode is absolutely superb as well. If you like a challenge that is, im on my 10th game and im just starting a match. If you want a game thats a piece of p1ss then fifas legend mode sounds the one. my friend got to be england captain after 2 seasons. ps. Casino .. Ive definately not seen perfectly good tackles in the premiership get yellows or reds or penalties..... oh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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