Slim Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 What would be the affect on drug use if there was a speed limit, and smoking (cigarettes) was allowed in pubs? What would Ned Flanders and Champ have to say on the issue? Would there be so many speeding biker pot headed pit bull owners on the IOM if we had a starbucks and pizza hut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 The lack of white dog poo is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 This is what I was getting at Slim. I was in a bit of a ranty mood yesterday I'm over it now. Mr Skrappey, not all drug users steal dear, think you will find only 'poor people' steal and generally it is to afford the things that others have (others who have £'000's of debt, which is a bit like stealing but its a clean way of doing it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 This is what I was getting at Slim. I know what your getting at, it's popular. I don't understand the point though, why should it be legal simply because it's popular. As to the vid, crimes are not just committed by the unemployed. I don't get why popularity should mean legality, can you explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 thebees, that is a very nice song and it makes a very good point, although the number of naughty people smoking cannabis is still very small compared to those that apparently don't. However, if you feel that cannabis should be legal then change the law@ Speak to all the MHKs and find at least 2 that are sympatheitc to your powers of persuasion, who will spark a debate in our parliament to legalise it. Better still, become an MHK yourself if you feel there is support for your thoughts. Once you have found another 16 or so like minded politicians then you have paved the way for changing the law. It really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I feel that a huge amount of police time and effort goes into surveillence and catching what are generally youngsters trying recreational drugs. Does anyone actually know what the cost in rescources is? I wouldn't neccesarily say that all drugs be made legal though. I'm sure some are more harmful than others, perhaps cannabis and ecstacy should carry a rap on the knuckles when heroin, cocaine etc should be dealt with more harshly and police time directed at this end of the scale. There is no doubt that drink and drugs mess up the heads of the working poulation, but putting things into context and dealing with the harder and more dangerous drugs would be preferable to criminalising a section of the community that is just going through a phase in life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Being a small Island nation with the ability to make our own laws you would think that we could sort this sort of matter out. Lead the way sort of thing. But we can't because basically the Isle of Man is a quasi county of UK and we are run, in the main, by fuckwits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Being a small Island nation with the ability to make our own laws you would think that we could sort this sort of matter out. Lead the way sort of thing. But we can't because basically the Isle of Man is a quasi county of UK and we are run, in the main, by fuckwits. Or, not enough people agree with you to effect a change of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Not necessarily a change in the law. That is already there isn't it. Perhaps I am saying the police should be heavier on drug use. How about the Isle of Man becoming 'drug free'. The point is, we are just wishy-washing about getting the little boys in court and making the legal system look like it is working, doing something or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Or, not enough people agree with you to effect a change of law. Thats another point, the amount of people with double standards is quite amazing, people who have smoked weed for years and then say "Oh no it should be against the law!" - these will be the people who have not been caught ofc and the people who really do believe they were not 'a bit mental' before they started smoking pot God bless them all. I can't be an MHK %age, I have a criminal record, for possession of cannabis. Why would I be bothered to levy MHK's? like has already been pointed out, they are, on the most part, fuckwits. I live in hope that one day people in general will stop believing all they read in the Daily Mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
%age Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 . . . a criminal record does not prevent you becoming an MHK. Are you in my constituency I wonder? If so . . . I promise . . . I promise absolutely . . . . that you would get my vote at the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 %age is right Bees, I know of an arsonist and I am sure there has been a few GBH ers as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebees Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 No waiii, that is totally nuts, I'm not fit to be an accountant, nurse, pub landlord, casino worker or squaddie but, I can apply for a job running the country, OMFG, that is more mental than I had originally considered it being. Heehee it certainly is something to consider when the 'childers are grown up. I'm a bit of a one trick pony though, I'm not that interested in general politics and I dont have any qualifications in history or politics either. Not to mention I couldn't cope with listening to all the clap trap the other MHK's would be spouting. Edit: Oh Slim, do shut up dear, you waffle on and on and on and it is just like watching me gran, the mouth is flapping but the words coming out dont mean very much x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 And if drugs were legal, the ingredients would be pure, and there would be none of the medical issues that arise from adulterated drugs. If you don't believe me, look at the two most common drugs - tobacco and alcohol. It's the illegality that's the problem. It's certainly lucky thAt there are no medical issues associated with alcohol or tobacco. Read the post. There are none arising from adulteration. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 if drugs were legal, the ingredients would be pure . . . . . . If you don't believe me, look at the two most common drugs - tobacco and alcohol. It's the illegality that's the problem. Cigarettes are certainly not pure, they contain a lot more crap that isn't very healthy - not just pure tobacco. Evidence of people suffering due to impurities in cigarettes? Thought not. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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