Albert Tatlock Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I wonder if he has ever met a transexual? How is one supposed to know? Adams apples, big hands, dangly cock. They seem to openly advertise in the phone book. If you're interested try 851397 and you'll soon get a Marown TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Tut, tut Albert fancy you not knowing the difference between a TV and a TS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Tut, tut Albert fancy you not knowing the difference between a TV and a TS Is it - one can do the 'scissors' in a skirt, the other won't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't see any merit in what you call chivalry in holding doors open when it is a woman as opposed to a man. It is old fashioned and sexist. I hold doors open for women. I hold doors open for men. I sometimes have men and women hold doors open for me. I don't see it as chivalry, just good manners (Edit to change women to men) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't see any merit in what you call chivalry in holding doors open when it is a woman as opposed to a man. It is old fashioned and sexist. I hold doors open for women. I hold doors open for women. I sometimes have men and women hold doors open for me. I don't see it as chivalry, just good manners Yeah you are right, but to make a point of giving priority to women simply because they are women is sexist. Many people would gesture to a woman to walk ahead or would hold a door open but would not offer the same 'deference' to a bloke. There are other old-fashioned behaviours, maybe like getting up off your seat and offering a woman a seat on the bus or somewhere else, though I don't think this is common (or maybe even true anymore). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 same here tog. but then again we always do it for the ladies too be noticed and thats the truth .. we are born sniffers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I don't see any merit in what you call chivalry in holding doors open when it is a woman as opposed to a man. It is old fashioned and sexist. I hold doors open for women. I hold doors open for women. I sometimes have men and women hold doors open for me. I don't see it as chivalry, just good manners Yeah you are right, but to make a point of giving priority to women simply because they are women is sexist. Many people would gesture to a woman to walk ahead or would hold a door open but would not offer the same 'deference' to a bloke. There are other old-fashioned behaviours, maybe like getting up off your seat and offering a woman a seat on the bus or somewhere else, though I don't think this is common (or maybe even true anymore). bollox sexist we are just hoping to meet one with a few drinks in them that remembers us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I do it because I was brought up that way, by your standards I am just as much allowed to punch a woman in the face who was threatening me as I would a man, not going to happen. Sorry but a lot of the 'old fashioned' stuff you talk about is as true today as it was when it was 'new'. I am not going to walk round town pointing at homosexuals/transexuals/lesbians and yell "NOOOO UNCLEAN, UN-NATURAL!!!" at the top of my voice, but on the other hand, this is a discussion forum, and my feelings compared to what courtesy and respect dictate I say can be 2 completely different things. My views are quite simple, everybody has the right to choose their path, be it hetro/homo/changing their sex surgically. But bringing in ill thought out laws which - as all laws - are open to 'interpretation' can cause simple misunderstandings to be blown out of all proportions; likewise, forcing me by law to change my social upbringing is a breach of my human rights... Speaking of which Take the Human Rights Act, 'travellers' (who dont travel, they move in and stay there for years on end) get to barge into areas, break all sorts of planning/health/criminal laws, then jump on the "Oh but it is my human right to be a twat" bus. You cannot change people's human instincts or views; not by laws, not by threats, and not by manxforums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I assume these people pay for the surgery / drugs / aftercare out of their own pockets? Waiting lists and length of time to see a specialist on the NHS are horrendous, and that is before they decide if you need surgery. I don't think taxpayers money should be used because some bloke is sick of his nob, or some woman fancies having an appendage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 statistically 90% of women already have a knob [appendage}... ..they are usually in the drivers seat. .. or holding the remote control for the tele .{ {didnt say tv as it may have caused confusion} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 If a woman hit you you have every right to hit her back. No it isn't. I am not referring to your chivalry which will be largely benign in its consequences (though it does reinforce gender roles and sexism, but as does acceptance of your chivalry by women). It is laws such as these overcome the assumptions on gender which need to be changed. Nobody is forcing you, for example, to change your behaviour but if there is a friction between recognition of someone's gender and your own upbringing you have to ask why that is and what is right. Instincts? There isn't anything instinctive about people's understanding of gender. And you can change people's views with education. But you can't force them to change. In this instance, would assume your manners and helpfulness would take priority over your uncertainties about to treat someone who you have 'spotted' to be transsexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I assume these people pay for the surgery / drugs / aftercare out of their own pockets? Waiting lists and length of time to see a specialist on the NHS are horrendous, and that is before they decide if you need surgery. I don't think taxpayers money should be used because some bloke is sick of his nob, or some woman fancies having an appendage. There are massive problems with the NHS, but I think people who have had so much pain and upset over their situation should be given happiness if it can be found in gender re-assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentbob Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 If a woman hit you you have every right to hit her back. I have never hit a woman in anger, no matter how much they have deserved it, nobody is going to change my views on that...ever. My manners and overall conduct in a real life situation is not my argument, my views are. Of course it is instinct and human nature. If I walk down the street and see a bloke, I do not think "Cor, he is fit" as I am not sexually attracted to males, that is my basic human nature/instinct. And by that same instinct, I will offer my seat to a lady/Elderly person on a packed bus, it is their choice to take the offer or not. Problem is with you lot, you all want to be crusaders for the future, but in my book, a lot of the past is being over written by stupid hairbrained laws that cause more issues than they solve. Child Protection laws - Given us the ASBO generation of teenagers who are 'above' the law as they cannot be reprimanded by the Police schools or even their own parents, no longer afraid of anyone. Human Rights - As previously mentioned has given us traveller's paradise of molesting whichever area they chose with impunity. Also allows criminals who have raped/murdered/scarred their fellow humans to watch Sky HD and play pool at our expense. Gun Laws - None of the changes will ever stop someone snapping and going on a killing spree (Dunblaine, Hungerford - Both 'nice quiet men') yet the red tape involved in getting a licence now only forces more people to become unlicenced owners - adding that those who intend to murder people with guns hardly care about laws in the first place. As I said right at the start, I have no issues with people choosing their path in life. I dont even have an issue with them getting some form of protection from the abuse that is inflicted upon pretty much any minority by callous and ignorant people; but there are already laws in place that protect against provoking behaviour, racism etc etc; I dont see the need for any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 statistically 90% of women already have a knob Statistically every man and woman has half a penis each (assuming 50/50 distribution of the sexes) On the upside that means I should have one breast to play with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La_Dolce_Vita Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I have never hit a woman in anger, no matter how My manners and overall conduct in a real life situation is not my argument, my views are. Of course it is instinct and human nature. If I walk down the street and see a bloke, I do not think "Cor, he is fit" as I am not sexually attracted to males, that is my basic human nature/instinct. And by that same instinct, I will offer my seat to a lady/Elderly person on a packed bus, it is their choice to take the offer or not. The issue about attraction is instinct, but I don't see how you think it is instinct to let someone have your seat, even with an elderly person. We are almost all empathetic creatures, but the understanding that a woman should have the seat as opposed to man is just something you have learned. Maybe it is more a learned reaction rather than instinct. Problem is with you lot, you all want to be crusaders for the future, but in my book, a lot of the past is being over written by stupid hairbrained laws that cause more issues than they solve. I don't know whether you muddling everything together in terms of human rights. I am not proponent of the much in society, but in this society I have to recognise that rights are required to gain equal treatment in respect of the law and other organisations, and also in receiving the 'rightful' treatment. You do understand why this Gender law is being introduced, do it not makes sense to you given what situation such people are currently in? Laws are not the answer to problems in society, certainly not, in many ways they make things worse. I do kinda understand where you are coming from in your perspective of human rights, but they are not the CAUSE of such problems, and the causes very important. But I think it is too simply to box anti-discrimination laws with child protection laws, and gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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