Newsbot Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 The death of a 28-year-old woman who crashed into a wall in Onchan was an accident, a coroner rules. Source : http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/...man/7903511.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali the Destroyer Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Douglas-wom...s-an.5004148.jp Drink driving not wearing a seatbelt and driving over the speed limit in icy conditions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Douglas-wom...s-an.5004148.jp Drink driving not wearing a seatbelt and driving over the speed limit in icy conditions! hence the 'accident' eh? perhaps some accidents should be called 'stupids' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What's misadventure then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What's misadventure then? anything not involving a car. being able to say 'accident' instead of slagging of the deceased's behaviour is much better PR for the relatives. it allows them the illusion that is was actually a completely unexpected event and fate conspired to cause the death and nothing to do with a person doing something totally stupid and illegal on many levels that ended up with their own demise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What's misadventure then? Presumably if something happens to you which is beyond your control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What's misadventure then? Presumably if something happens to you which is beyond your control. Wouldn't that be an accident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What's misadventure then? Presumably if something happens to you which is beyond your control. Wouldn't that be an accident? Never a lawyer around when you need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does misadventure ever get ruled for anyone other than TT riders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titanic Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 ... there are no accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Your parents might disagree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Misadventure is legally an accident, with no intent or negligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatopian Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Verdicts in coroners inquests Specifically in relation to coroners' courts in E&W, but I assume the situation is similar in the IoM. Died as the result of an accident/misadventure: For statistical purposes the verdicts of accident and misadventure are treated as the same, although in reality the verdicts have slightly different meanings. An accident suggests something over which there is no human control (for example, a tree falling onto the road causing fatalities), whereas misadventure suggests a lawful human act, which takes an unexpected turn and leads to death. There is some authority suggesting that the term ‘misadventure’ is without purpose or effect, nonetheless it continues to be a verdict returned by Coroners in appropriate circumstances. For example, if the deceased died as a consequence of some medical intervention (perhaps a surgical accident causing a fatal injury or a death resulting from side effects of prescription drugs) a verdict of misadventure will reflect that the deceased died as a result of a lawful human act that had unintended consequences. To return a verdict of accident or misadventure the Coroner or jury must be satisfied on the balance of probabilities that this is how the death occurred. I'm none the wiser! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Does misadventure ever get ruled for anyone other than TT riders? Unfortunatley I had to give evidence at a inquest into a woman who crashed in front of me and died at the scene. That was classed as misadventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Douglas-wom...s-an.5004148.jp Drink driving not wearing a seatbelt and driving over the speed limit in icy conditions! hence the 'accident' eh? perhaps some accidents should be called 'stupids' The most stupid is the culture that is motoring. Stupid cars. And stupid people who feel they need a stupid car. Luckily this culture has alcohol and a seat belt oversight to blame for this one, so can carry on as normal. I've seen a load of these stupid half car/half aeroplane type yobmobiles flying down that same stretch of road since, clearly speeding to an extreme, and within inches of the poor sods who not only walk along the pavement there, but have no choice other than to do so. You'd never guess it was a 30 mph limit along there half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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