Kurashima Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 to be honest, tesco have done more for the islands farmers then any other store on the island,thay may be a hugh store, and in england thay do shaft the local famers, but here thay have really done the island well, so bigger the better Tesco havent done anything for Island Farmers that they werent forced to do as part of the agreement to let them build the store. Given the choice , theyd have all meat and veg imported from across , frozen , in bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Think you will find that Shoprite has done more for the local farmers with local produce going into all their stores, serving the whole of the island, not just one shop in Douglas. If Shoprite was a better store I would use it other than when I absolutely have to. The Ramsey store continues to go downhill IMO. It's like they are deliberately making it bad. Since about the time the introduced Tczibo and all that Iceland frozen rubbish and closed the meat counter and the deli section. I do not see how them being rubbish helps farmers. Example. I quite often want to buy chicken. Nearly every time I go in that store - there is no free range or corn fed chicken. Just an empty shelf where it is supposed to be and some horrible factory farmed stuff which I'm not going to waste any money on. So I get my shopping at the Co Op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manshimajin Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I, for one, wouldn't mind Tesco 'controlling' the price of petrol here. They might charge a reasonable price, as opposed to the rip-off merchants that we're currently burdened with. Notice that petrol prices have been creeping up over the last few weeks - why? The reason that Tesco sell cheap fuel in the UK is that they hav to compete with Morrisons, ASDA and Sainsbury's. If they had petrol here it would be 1p cheaper than the competition! I would love to see Strand St redeveloped with a roof over and entry doors to turn it into a useable all-weather shopping precinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I, for one, wouldn't mind Tesco 'controlling' the price of petrol here. They might charge a reasonable price, as opposed to the rip-off merchants that we're currently burdened with. Notice that petrol prices have been creeping up over the last few weeks - why? The reason that Tesco sell cheap fuel in the UK is that they hav to compete with Morrisons, ASDA and Sainsbury's. If they had petrol here it would be 1p cheaper than the competition! I would love to see Strand St redeveloped with a roof over and entry doors to turn it into a useable all-weather shopping precinct. nice dream, but the 'problem' with strand street, and why getting woolies occupied is no easy task is the lack of parking. the likes of shoprite and tesco's with their own car parks get them full, and that is just for their shop! how much parking would strand st need to be viable?? starts buses vs cars debate??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 to be honest, tesco have done more for the islands farmers then any other store on the island,thay may be a hugh store, and in england thay do shaft the local famers, but here thay have really done the island well, so bigger the better Think you will find that Shoprite has done more for the local farmers with local produce going into all their stores, serving the whole of the island, not just one shop in Douglas. ha ha your haveing a laugh aint you, tescos sells more manx meats than all of shoprites shops, least thay havent made up some brand that makes ppl in the island think it all comes from one nice farm, ballcushag ring any bells, total crap to be honest, tesco have done more for the islands farmers then any other store on the island,thay may be a hugh store, and in england thay do shaft the local famers, but here thay have really done the island well, so bigger the better Tesco havent done anything for Island Farmers that they werent forced to do as part of the agreement to let them build the store. Given the choice , theyd have all meat and veg imported from across , frozen , in bulk. that might have been true, but i do know that thay are pushing for more manx produce then thay have to, Thay want more local produce, i know that for a fact before any one asks, so not pub talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Great over 200 eastern european part time jobs being created. I'm so proud to be Manx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triskelion Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 If you buy from Warehouse Express then everything goes off island. But you save enough money to potentially spend a bit on something where the profit definitely stays on island - perhaps a meal at Cheeky Boy's posh burger emporium. If, say regulation, was to restrict trade such that people were forced to buy from small shops* --> then otherwise potentially viable long term self sufficient local trade would suffer from people having less free money to spend. Money saved buying a TV at Tesco, or online - might likely end up in the pockets of some other local business. Provided trade is not restricted. *edited But if I spend all my money in local shops, I might have marginally fewer things, but I'll be much more thoughtful about what I'm spending it on, and I'll be putting as much into the local economy as is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 I too am a bit worried about the impact of this on other shops/jobs - I suspect the impact may be more than people think, simply because the economics of it are that those two hundred extra jobs have to earn their keep and in addition make profit on top, all of which has to come from somewhere/someone else unfortunately. And all happening at a time when less people are arriving here to take up employment, and jobs are actually being lost. Won't bode well for quite a few shops IMO, but that's the price of a free market for you I spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But if I spend all my money in local shops, I might have marginally fewer things, but I'll be much more thoughtful about what I'm spending it on, and I'll be putting as much into the local economy as is possible. All the people employed in delivery are doing fantastic business thanks to the internet. That's money coming into the IOM from outside. Large volumes of small payments being re distributed as wages and costs. There is no point in trying to stop something which is inevitable like the tide or economics. There are lots of things that small shops are great for - and other things where bigger distribution networks and the internet brands make much more sense. Small shops are good for added-value, specialist and boutique shopping experiences. But it would be crazy to go to a shop to buy something which the retailer has ordered off the internet anyhow. Unless the retailer somehow provides significant added value. Much of what is on the same-everywhere high streets of the UK has no future either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 But it would be crazy to go to a shop to buy something which the retailer has ordered off the internet anyhow. Unless the retailer somehow provides significant added value. Added value yes - time they started offering ****jobs in Anne Summers, next time I buy the missus some lingerie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboarder Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Great over 200 eastern european part time jobs being created. I'm so proud to be Manx. I'm pretty sure the jobs will be on the island, not in Eastern Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurashima Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Im of the opinion that if a local shop wants my business , they have to offer me something that I cant get anywhere else on Island, and be able to provide a skill in creating or maintaining that item if I need it. The ability to take a clients order , guarantee it in 14 days then buy it from Amazon or Play.Com is an absoloute pisstake, and an insult to the customers intelligence. Hence why the electronics stores here are such a waste of time. It takes a chef years to develop his recipes and he has to utilise his skills every time he cooks you a meal of your choosing, hence why ill go to a local restaurant over a pub or fast food outlet when possible. If he took an order , then sent someone to MacDonalds to get your burger, youd never go back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee54 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The questions that a MHK or MLCshould be asking Tesco are. How many staff are currently employed at Tesco IOM. How many are full time and recieve the minimum benifits (sick pay, holiday pay. pension ect) How many are part time who recieve any benifits. Why do Tesco employ so many part time workers instead of fulltime workers and is it to reduce employers NI payments. Do Tesco pay overtime rates to its staff that work more than thier contract agreed hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatopian Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The questions that a MHK or MLCshould be asking Tesco are. How many staff are currently employed at Tesco IOM. How many are full time and recieve the minimum benifits (sick pay, holiday pay. pension ect) How many are part time who recieve any benifits. Why do Tesco employ so many part time workers instead of fulltime workers and is it to reduce employers NI payments. Do Tesco pay overtime rates to its staff that work more than thier contract agreed hours. Why should an MHK or MLC ask any of these things? Why is any of it relevant, provided Tesco comply with laws on employment and taxation? Presumably the treasury deal with such matters on a day-to-day basis without the need for questions to be asked in parliament - what makes Tesco so special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee54 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 The questions that a MHK or MLCshould be asking Tesco are. How many staff are currently employed at Tesco IOM. How many are full time and recieve the minimum benifits (sick pay, holiday pay. pension ect) How many are part time who recieve any benifits. Why do Tesco employ so many part time workers instead of fulltime workers and is it to reduce employers NI payments. Do Tesco pay overtime rates to its staff that work more than thier contract agreed hours. Why should an MHK or MLC ask any of these things? Why is any of it relevant, provided Tesco comply with laws on employment and taxation? Presumably the treasury deal with such matters on a day-to-day basis without the need for questions to be asked in parliament - what makes Tesco so special? It is cheaper for Tesco to employ only part time staff, part time staff dont get any benifits and depending on the hours they work the DHSS loses out, and if the DHSS is short changed we all lose out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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