Confirmed Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Just what the Isle of Man didn't need. UK government spin just in time for the G20? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/11/antigua-isle-of-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 To many socialists of course, the recent 'hidden beauty' of the state-ownership, or simply being a major stakeholder of banks, is the state access to information - they can now call upon their own intelligence services to implement 'operation fine-tooth comb' whenever, and for whoever, it suits them. What UK government wouldn't go for every diversion it can to keep Joe Public from realising that it was actually his own government, along with the boards of financial institutions and a toothless government instigated regulator, that activily encouraged and allowed this great credit calamity to occur in the first place? If that means focusing on a few measly pennies to keep attention away from the trillions they have lost us between them, then all the better - anything that keeps Gordon Broon and the truth off the front pages is 'a good thing'. Naturally, a sheep-like Joe Public likes nothing better than a few scapegoats, so will go along with it like an old horse driven to the knackers yard. The pigs with their noses in the UK and US troughs know which side their bread is buttered, and having spent years learning how to spin, control and divert their sheep, how better to do it than to announce to their sheep: 'Two-faced good, three legs bad'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ermo Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Whilst having a bank account in the IOM is not a criminal offense, making payments (bribes) to politicians for political favours is. Just thought I'd help Mr David Leigh out there he seems to be a little confused. Anyone read Risk I thought it was rather good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 To many socialists of course, the recent 'hidden beauty' of the state-ownership, or simply being a major stakeholder of banks, is the state access to information - they can now call upon their own intelligence services to implement 'operation fine-tooth comb' whenever, and for whoever, it suits them. What UK government wouldn't go for every diversion it can to keep Joe Public from realising that it was actually his own government, along with the boards of financial institutions and a toothless government instigated regulator, that activily encouraged and allowed this great credit calamity to occur in the first place? If that means focusing on a few measly pennies to keep attention away from the trillions they have lost us between them, then all the better - anything that keeps Gordon Broon and the truth off the front pages is 'a good thing'. Naturally, a sheep-like Joe Public likes nothing better than a few scapegoats, so will go along with it like an old horse driven to the knackers yard. The pigs with their noses in the UK and US troughs know which side their bread is buttered, and having spent years learning how to spin, control and divert their sheep, how better to do it than to announce to their sheep: 'Two-faced good, three legs bad'? What a load of old guff. From the same edition the editorial explains it in grown-up terms. It concludes: "......there should be optimism for three reasons. The first is that the political climate is different. The US now has a president who is determined to crack down on tax havens, and the financial crisis has emboldened those European leaders who have long wanted action. Mr Brown has cover for his new-found radicalism. The second is that the financial crisis is helping to make the case against offshore tax dodging. As officials and expert outsiders are able to examine the detritus of the securitisation boom, they are finding strong evidence of how much of it was driven by the tax advantages of using offshore havens. Finally, there is an economic imperative - governments are spending vast sums, even while their revenues are being hit by the recession. The search is on for more ways to raise cash, even if that means a shake-down of tax havens. A fairer tax system is not inevitable, but the conditions to create one could not be more propitious." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemonday Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 This claim requires full investigation. I wish to nominate myself for the position of special investigator ( in Antigua ) on behalf of the manx government. Since I know fuck all about the ins and outs of naughty banking I am clearly well qualified. I also have several pairs of shorts and don't burn in the sun. I'll go ( should only take me about 3 - 5 years to draft a preliminary report ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'll go ( should only take me about 3 - 5 years to draft a preliminary report ) At huge cost of course and will probably over run a few million since your initial quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Michael, his former chief of staff, has also denied wrongdoing, saying: "It is a red herring across the campaign trail." nothing to do with us our herring are not red.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 At huge cost of course and will probably over run a few million since your initial quote. Of course will it run over - it's called "Inflation", as in inflatable boat, inflatable toys, and other tools vital to the investigation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What a load of old guff. Gosh, you'd be the safest person to stand next to serving in the forces I'd bet - everything seems to fly way above your head. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 What a load of old guff. Gosh, you'd be the safest person to stand next to serving in the forces I'd bet - everything seems to fly way above your head. Yeah, they liked standing next to me - because I always hit the target - as you know... Though on balance I think I preferred your first effort: No wonder you never got shot serving in the forces - everything seems to fly above your head. Keep trying and you never know, you might eventually manage something worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Keep trying and you never know, you might eventually manage something worthwhile. Coo! - Ta for the encouragement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Alas you and your constant "Big Brother" tirades scarcely require encouragement. To many socialists of course, the recent 'hidden beauty' of the state-ownership, or simply being a major stakeholder of banks, is the state access to information - they can now call upon their own intelligence services to implement 'operation fine-tooth comb' whenever, and for whoever, it suits them. It may actually be a case of "too little, too late." Nine arrested in £40m mortgage fraud inquiry Full story here. Little wonder Bradford & Bingley went tits up. I wonder how many more will crawl out of the woodwork? How proud Maggie must be of her de-regulation and making a virtue out of greed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebrof Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 From the same edition the editorial explains it in grown-up terms. It concludes: "......there should be optimism for three reasons. The first is that the political climate is different. The US now has a president who is determined to crack down on tax havens, and the financial crisis has emboldened those European leaders who have long wanted action. Mr Brown has cover for his new-found radicalism. The second is that the financial crisis is helping to make the case against offshore tax dodging. As officials and expert outsiders are able to examine the detritus of the securitisation boom, they are finding strong evidence of how much of it was driven by the tax advantages of using offshore havens. Finally, there is an economic imperative - governments are spending vast sums, even while their revenues are being hit by the recession. The search is on for more ways to raise cash, even if that means a shake-down of tax havens. A fairer tax system is not inevitable, but the conditions to create one could not be more propitious." The guff was in the quote that followed. Yes, the US now has Obama, but the UK still has Broon. "they are finding strong evidence of how much of it was driven by the tax advantages of using offshore havens." Oh yes? And where is this evidence? "The search is on for more ways to raise cash, even if that means a shake-down of tax havens." How much is a tax haven crackdown really going to save? Espeically when the US still has Delaware and Arizona, which are much less transparent than the IOM. S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Just what the Isle of Man didn't need. UK government spin just in time for the G20? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/11/antigua-isle-of-man Freedom to Flourish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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