Moghrey Mie Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 I blinked and missed it. How did John Shimmin justify burning the green waste at the incinerator when their own policy Waste Management Plan 2000 (page 12) says NONE was intended to go to the incinerator and 61,000 tonnes would be recycled? Page 19 shows the waste hierarchy 1 waste reduction 2 re-use 3 recycling 4 composting 5 waste as fuel 6 landfill It seems a policy can be written down but what happens is something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 9 years is a long time in government. new labour have destroyed britian in half that time.. and had blair put his mind too it he could have destroyed it years ahead of schedule.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahc Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 When was it burnt there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 your waste management policy cannot be set in stone and must surely depend on market forces .. if you cannot sell your recyclables then you incinerate if thats is the cheapest option .. and burning must be cheaper than landfill and associated problems gas/drainage etc for green waste.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 When was it burnt there? Now from the Douglas/Onchan/ Braddan Eastern amenity site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share Posted March 18, 2009 your waste management policy cannot be set in stone and must surely depend on market forces .. if you cannot sell your recyclables then you incinerate if thats is the cheapest option .. and burning must be cheaper than landfill and associated problems gas/drainage etc for green waste.. What's the point of burning green waste and then importing compost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyrotten Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [ What's the point of burning green waste and then importing compost? More to the point, what's the point of taking your green waste to the amenity site, using petrol/diesel and causing pollution, just so they can take it to the incinerator? Why not just put it in the dustbin so it can go straight there, and save two journeys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbashbosh Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 9 years is a long time in government. new labour have destroyed britian in half that time.. and had blair put his mind too it he could have destroyed it years ahead of schedule.. Don't think Blair has anything to do with our recycling policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbashbosh Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 your waste management policy cannot be set in stone and must surely depend on market forces .. if you cannot sell your recyclables then you incinerate if thats is the cheapest option .. and burning must be cheaper than landfill and associated problems gas/drainage etc for green waste.. Um, cost isn't really meant to be the driving force of a green policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thriller Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 [ What's the point of burning green waste and then importing compost? More to the point, what's the point of taking your green waste to the amenity site, using petrol/diesel and causing pollution, just so they can take it to the incinerator? Why not just put it in the dustbin so it can go straight there, and save two journeys? Because it would make my job twice as hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Composting is the cheapest way of green disposing waste, all you do is let nature do it. So price is not the problem, its having the infastructure to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Apparently it costs local authorities twice as much to compost the green waste as to incinerate it. Composting will put extra on the rates. Would you accept higher rates, just to treat green waste differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badlad Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 The problem just now is nobody anywhere is buying the stuff. Its piled high all around europe. Also here if you want to ship it anywhere in the eec you need a permit at a cost of £1200 per consignment.Even with a permit you cant give it away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Well in the uk alot of farmers are using the compost that is produced and is spread on the fields as a top dressing. Composting is not expensive all you do is turn it weekly for 12 weeks and then leave it to mature for another 12 weeks. All they need to do is create a waste disposing site where waste is sorted and then recycled. Ballaneven compost produces some great compost and they cannot sell enough of it. So there is local compost and it is sold island wide. But bedause they have to do all the work, turning etc, they are twice as expensive as just dumping it in the incinerator. It is more expensive, labour intensive etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smelly Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Well in the uk alot of farmers are using the compost that is produced and is spread on the fields as a top dressing. Composting is not expensive all you do is turn it weekly for 12 weeks and then leave it to mature for another 12 weeks. All they need to do is create a waste disposing site where waste is sorted and then recycled. Ballaneven compost produces some great compost and they cannot sell enough of it. So there is local compost and it is sold island wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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